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That thing has like $400 worth of hardware in it.

by ddtaylor 8y ago

oblio 8y ago
So does the iPhone XS Max. When has that ever stopped them? :)
- saagarjha 8y ago
  This isn’t true for the Mac Mini, and it isn’t true for iPhone either. Apple’s margins are rarely over 40% on their consumer hardware.
  - oblio 8y ago
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-iphone/apples-iphone-x-has-higher-margin-than-iphone-8-analysis-idUSKBN1D62RZ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-iphone/apples-iphon... ... You were saying?
    - kalleboo 8y ago
      That analysts are full of shit
      - stevewodil 8y ago
        They literally priced out the components. I would love to see any information you have that shows they are full of shit if you can provide any
        kalleboo 8y ago
        https://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/27/apple-product-component-cost-breakdowns-inaccurate/ https://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/27/apple-product-component... > [Tim] Cook commented on the inaccuracy of estimated cost breakdowns on Apple products. > "I haven't seen [them for Apple Watch], but generally there are cost breakdowns around our products that are much different than the reality. I've never seen one that is anywhere close to being accurate," Cook said
        oblio 8y ago
        The iPhone margins are around 40%: https://www.statista.com/statistics/666993/iphone-estimated-gross-margins/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/666993/iphone-estimated-... My example was about the iPhone XS Max. Can you tell me with a straight face that Apple’s top model has a lower gross margin than their average? Also, other producers can make perfectly comparable products at much lower price points. Add to that Apple’s logistics and supplier influence prowess and there’s no way Apple is paying more than smaller manufacturers for comparable hardware.
lotsofpulp 8y ago
For your services, do you charge only the amount you need to live on, or as much as you think you can get?
qaq 8y ago
How much would you value MacOS license at ?
- Roboprog 8y ago
  Bingo. Its worth a few hundred dollars to me to never see MS Windows again. And I can’t run my music hobby software on Linux, at least not easily.
  - Roboprog 8y ago
    I also used to run DR DOS decades ago to avoid MS then, too.
sbuk 8y ago
There’s more to it than the components. For instance; - manufacturing. - packaging. - margin. - profit. - tax. - warehousing. - dev. - r&d. - marketing. - distribution. - stores. - licensing. - logistics. Probably more. They all have a cost.
whateveracct 8y ago
Heh every post about Apple products has this comment, doesn't it?
- deleted 8y ago
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That thing has like $400 worth of hardware in it.

oblio 8y ago

So does the iPhone XS Max. When has that ever stopped them? :)

saagarjha 8y ago
This isn’t true for the Mac Mini, and it isn’t true for iPhone either. Apple’s margins are rarely over 40% on their consumer hardware.
- oblio 8y ago
  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-iphone/apples-iphone-x-has-higher-margin-than-iphone-8-analysis-idUSKBN1D62RZ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-iphone/apples-iphon... ... You were saying?
  - kalleboo 8y ago
    That analysts are full of shit
    - stevewodil 8y ago
      They literally priced out the components. I would love to see any information you have that shows they are full of shit if you can provide any
      - kalleboo 8y ago
        https://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/27/apple-product-component-cost-breakdowns-inaccurate/ https://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/27/apple-product-component... > [Tim] Cook commented on the inaccuracy of estimated cost breakdowns on Apple products. > "I haven't seen [them for Apple Watch], but generally there are cost breakdowns around our products that are much different than the reality. I've never seen one that is anywhere close to being accurate," Cook said
        oblio 8y ago
        The iPhone margins are around 40%: https://www.statista.com/statistics/666993/iphone-estimated-gross-margins/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/666993/iphone-estimated-... My example was about the iPhone XS Max. Can you tell me with a straight face that Apple’s top model has a lower gross margin than their average? Also, other producers can make perfectly comparable products at much lower price points. Add to that Apple’s logistics and supplier influence prowess and there’s no way Apple is paying more than smaller manufacturers for comparable hardware.

lotsofpulp 8y ago

For your services, do you charge only the amount you need to live on, or as much as you think you can get?

qaq 8y ago

How much would you value MacOS license at ?

Roboprog 8y ago
Bingo. Its worth a few hundred dollars to me to never see MS Windows again. And I can’t run my music hobby software on Linux, at least not easily.
- Roboprog 8y ago
  I also used to run DR DOS decades ago to avoid MS then, too.

sbuk 8y ago

There’s more to it than the components. For instance; - manufacturing. - packaging. - margin. - profit. - tax. - warehousing. - dev. - r&d. - marketing. - distribution. - stores. - licensing. - logistics. Probably more. They all have a cost.

whateveracct 8y ago

Heh every post about Apple products has this comment, doesn't it?

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