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People love repeating this for some reason, but mail crime is under-funded, rarely investigated, and even more rarely enforced. Realistically if you tamper wit

People love repeating this for some reason, but mail crime is under-funded, rarely investigated, and even more rarely enforced. Realistically if you tamper with mail nothing at all will happen to you, until your fraud raises to a headline figure and could get someone a promotion.

jeffmould 8y ago
Interesting you say this as I had heard similar stories of underfunded mail crime investigations in the past. However, where I live is a very seasonal location. Population goes from 10000+ over the summer to under 1000 during the winter months. Several years ago a couple people in the community noticed problems with their mail (mail seemingly missing, receiving wrongly addressed items, etc..). They called the postal service and an investigator was out in days. Within two weeks there were hidden cameras mounted in various locations around town pointed at mailboxes. A few more weeks and they apprehended an individual going through mailboxes based on the photos from those cameras. I don't know the final outcome, but the total turnaround from notification to arrest was less than 3 months.
- kbenson 8y ago
  > They called the postal service and an investigator was out in days. Even underfunded agencies can prioritize. A call notifying them of a problem is a world of difference than them identifying and pursuing issues on their own. Just like how an underfunded police department may not patrol all the areas they should, but if you call them to notify them of a crime, an officer will likely show up at some point. Even if the officer shows up quite a bit later, the relative difference to when an officer might stumble across that area, much less evidence of the crime, is probably somewhat comparable.
SomeHacker44 8y ago
My neighbor stole mail right out of my mailbox. I had it on video. The police declined to do anything about it. So... anecdotally validated.
- dmckeon 8y ago
  Try the US Postal Inspectors: https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/ https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/ It may be too old or too small a case for them, but video evidence may help.
- tonyztan 8y ago
  For mail-related crime, you should also contact the U.S. Postal Inspection Service. https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov
danso 8y ago
People love stating this fact because it's likely most people are surprised the law allows for such severe serious penalties for what might seem like a petty infraction. What you've said about underfunded enforcement and rare investigations could be said about almost every other type of non-violent crime.
- fibers 8y ago
  Uh kyc banking laws used to fund terrorism (eg hawalas) have been extensively ramped up over the past 20 yrs. Theres certain non violent crimes that law enforcement has carte blanche to investigate.
  - danso 8y ago
    That's good to know. > "about almost every other type of non-violent crime."
- freedomben 8y ago
  The DEA and other drug-related enforcement certainly isn't underfunded ...

jeffmould 8y ago

Interesting you say this as I had heard similar stories of underfunded mail crime investigations in the past. However, where I live is a very seasonal location. Population goes from 10000+ over the summer to under 1000 during the winter months. Several years ago a couple people in the community noticed problems with their mail (mail seemingly missing, receiving wrongly addressed items, etc..). They called the postal service and an investigator was out in days. Within two weeks there were hidden cameras mounted in various locations around town pointed at mailboxes. A few more weeks and they apprehended an individual going through mailboxes based on the photos from those cameras. I don't know the final outcome, but the total turnaround from notification to arrest was less than 3 months.

kbenson 8y ago
> They called the postal service and an investigator was out in days. Even underfunded agencies can prioritize. A call notifying them of a problem is a world of difference than them identifying and pursuing issues on their own. Just like how an underfunded police department may not patrol all the areas they should, but if you call them to notify them of a crime, an officer will likely show up at some point. Even if the officer shows up quite a bit later, the relative difference to when an officer might stumble across that area, much less evidence of the crime, is probably somewhat comparable.

SomeHacker44 8y ago

My neighbor stole mail right out of my mailbox. I had it on video. The police declined to do anything about it. So... anecdotally validated.

dmckeon 8y ago
Try the US Postal Inspectors: https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/ https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/ It may be too old or too small a case for them, but video evidence may help.
tonyztan 8y ago
For mail-related crime, you should also contact the U.S. Postal Inspection Service. https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov

danso 8y ago

People love stating this fact because it's likely most people are surprised the law allows for such severe serious penalties for what might seem like a petty infraction. What you've said about underfunded enforcement and rare investigations could be said about almost every other type of non-violent crime.

fibers 8y ago
Uh kyc banking laws used to fund terrorism (eg hawalas) have been extensively ramped up over the past 20 yrs. Theres certain non violent crimes that law enforcement has carte blanche to investigate.
- danso 8y ago
  That's good to know. > "about almost every other type of non-violent crime."
freedomben 8y ago
The DEA and other drug-related enforcement certainly isn't underfunded ...