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The risk of tsunamis in Germany is high?

kuschku 8y ago
Rivers can spontaneously flood, too. And German nuclear plants happen to be located on such rivers. And many of them are first generation LWRs with significant safety issues. The town neighboring one of the reactors producing energy for Hamburg has for some unknown reason the world's highest rate of child leukemia.
- nukemandan 8y ago
  got as source with statistics to back that claim?
  - kuschku 8y ago
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuk%C3%A4miecluster_Elbmarsch https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuk%C3%A4miecluster_Elbmarsch
    - nukemandan 8y ago
      From that: >Euroclus study In contrast to the above-mentioned studies, which focus on the Elbmarsch geographical area, the EUROCLUS study attempted to find matches between the 240 leukemia clusters identified in the study. The evaluation of the study showed that environmental factors such as proximity to nuclear power plants, military airfields or other facilities often causing pollutants do not correlate with the occurrence of leukemia cases, but that demographic factors are the most significant characteristics in which they were studied Clusters match.
    - nukemandan 8y ago
      I am not a statistician - but 14 total instances in all studies? This seems like a study group too small to analyze with meaningful significance - the expected variance is very large with such a small sample. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892150/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892150/ And not to downplay at all - but 14 cases being the total possible over a ~30 year time-frame seems like a mute issue compared to any other life threatening issues.
- StreamBright 8y ago
  Are you comparing a river flood to a tsunami seriously?
  - kuschku 8y ago
    Yes, because for this purpose they're both equivalent: they both have the potential to disable the emergency generators. The reactor Krümmel actually had incidents in the past where the emergency generators failed, and where the connection to the grud failed. Just by sheer luck never at the same time.

Rivers can spontaneously flood, too. And German nuclear plants happen to be located on such rivers. And many of them are first generation LWRs with significant safety issues. The town neighboring one of the reactors producing energy for Hamburg has for some unknown reason the world's highest rate of child leukemia.

nukemandan 8y ago
got as source with statistics to back that claim?
- kuschku 8y ago
  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuk%C3%A4miecluster_Elbmarsch https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuk%C3%A4miecluster_Elbmarsch
  - nukemandan 8y ago
    From that: >Euroclus study In contrast to the above-mentioned studies, which focus on the Elbmarsch geographical area, the EUROCLUS study attempted to find matches between the 240 leukemia clusters identified in the study. The evaluation of the study showed that environmental factors such as proximity to nuclear power plants, military airfields or other facilities often causing pollutants do not correlate with the occurrence of leukemia cases, but that demographic factors are the most significant characteristics in which they were studied Clusters match.
  - nukemandan 8y ago
    I am not a statistician - but 14 total instances in all studies? This seems like a study group too small to analyze with meaningful significance - the expected variance is very large with such a small sample. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892150/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892150/ And not to downplay at all - but 14 cases being the total possible over a ~30 year time-frame seems like a mute issue compared to any other life threatening issues.
StreamBright 8y ago
Are you comparing a river flood to a tsunami seriously?
- kuschku 8y ago
  Yes, because for this purpose they're both equivalent: they both have the potential to disable the emergency generators. The reactor Krümmel actually had incidents in the past where the emergency generators failed, and where the connection to the grud failed. Just by sheer luck never at the same time.