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What % of incidents were first offenses? Unless it's a really low number, firing after first offense won't reduce the total number of incidents enough.
by brlewis 8y ago
What % of incidents were first offenses? Unless it's a really low number, firing after first offense won't reduce the total number of incidents enough.
- gweinberg 8y agoIsn't that backwards? If most offenses are first offenses, then firing after a first offense won't help much. But if most offense are repeat, firing after the first offense would have prevented the repeat, right?
- brlewis 8y agoWhat you're saying and what I said are consistent, not backwards. "If most offenses are first offenses" satisfies the predicate "Unless [% of first offenses] is a really low number" The consequent "firing after a first offense won't help much" is consistent with "firing after first offense won't reduce the total number of incidents enough."
- kemitche 8y agoI disagree. You're assuming that only direct punishment can affect behavior, when the _threat_ of punishment after first offense can also affect behavior. As a ridiculous hyperbole: assume a life in prison minimum sentence is established for speeding, on the first offense, and that it's actually enforced. I guarantee you that very quickly we'd have everyone driving under the posted speed limit at all times.