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Against the Current: What We Learned from Eve
- neonate 8y agoThe video is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT2CMS0MxJ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT2CMS0MxJ0
- miguelrochefort 8y agoPart 2: https://youtu.be/ThjFFDwOXok https://youtu.be/ThjFFDwOXok
- zubairq 8y agoExcellent talk! I always admired the Eve guys as they had the ability to build things I could imagine, but I never had the skills to actually make myself
- Rainymood 8y agoNot being able to click any text is so annoying, is there any way to disable?
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- CodeArtisan 8y agoon Chrome, alt+mouse click on a link download its target but you can also select text instead (probably a side effect behavior)
- ThomPete 8y agoGreat talk.
- natural219 8y agoWithout punctuation, the transcript is pretty unreadable, hah. I'll watch the video, though; thanks for posting!
- JasonFruit 8y agoI'm not so sure about Eve and Light Table, but I do love a transcript. Even a lousy, raw, automated transcript like this is faster to read and more memorable than a video.
- jashkenas 8y agoI know, right? Transcripts are a beautiful thing. Fortunately, in this case, the page is being generated by a simple function that reads the YouTube format — so you can paste in the text, and create (and quickly publish) a transcript for any YouTube video you please: https://beta.observablehq.com/@jashkenas/youtube-transcriber https://beta.observablehq.com/@jashkenas/youtube-transcriber
- taohansen 8y agoA team spent years raising funds and developing first Light Table, then Eve, only to walk away with apologies. Why does this make me frustrated? Does the team owe those who pitched money into this (I wasn't one because I didn't know of Light Table at the time) a show of commitment to their product? I can't help but think of the bad will Google garnered shutting down beloved products, such as Inbox and Reader. That bad will will take decades to repair, perhaps longer. I am not making any personal attacks: I am only curious at the way I feel knowing two projects were shuttered before they really had their chance to live.
- melling 8y agoLight Table is now an open source project: https://github.com/LightTable/LightTable https://github.com/LightTable/LightTable It inspired Apple’s Swift Playgrounds. Hopefully, other tools will be inspired by Bret Victor‘s ideas. By the way, I was an original Kickstarter supporter. I’d back another project like this.
- taohansen 8y agoBut does Light Table now without its original founders have any steam behind it? A glance at its GitHub tells me no.
- melling 8y agoIt probably doesn’t have much momentum but it contributed enough that Chris Lattner was motivated to do Swift Playgrounds. To paraphrase Isaac Newton, we stand on each other’s shoulders. Other people need to stand on their shoulders. Most of the time developers want tools for free. That makes for slow progress.
- rpeden 8y agoA few developers stand on the shoulders of giants and try to see the future so they can shove the state of the art forward a little bit. Some developers stand in the footprints of giants and complain about the view. Many developers stand in the footprints of giants, don't realize they're standing in footprints, and will argue very loudly that the particular muddy footprint they're stuck in is amazing, and you're an idiot if you disagree. --- I admire group #1. And I don't blame group #2. You've got to pay the bills somehow, and most people can't afford to join group #1.
- truculent 8y agoReally interesting talk. Thank you for sharing. In my opinion, the best bits were those which focused on the learnings and lessons of the experience. While the startup narrative was interesting, I would have loved to have gone deeper into the conclusions of Chris and the rest in retrospect.