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This just shows just how much has changed in the last few years. Their push to increase revenues on a per-unit basis as opposed to reaching more customers will

This just shows just how much has changed in the last few years. Their push to increase revenues on a per-unit basis as opposed to reaching more customers will leave them incredibly exposed when someone else finally comes along and builds a laptop that developers are happy with at a fraction of the cost of whatever the next gen-MBPs are priced at. It might not be next year, but they're not gonna be beloved forever if they keep this up.

mediocrejoker 8y ago
Until a team with resources comparable to the OS X team puts in the effort to polish some Ubuntu derivative and make it work flawlessly with one or a few particular hardware configurations, Apple will still have an advantage that many are willing to pay a premium for.
- noir_lord 8y ago
  I have a T470P (the i7-7700HQ with 2560x1440@14" came in about half of a Macbook Pro in my country), I've genuinely had to do nothing to make Fedora 26 (then 27) work on it perfectly since I got it. It of course came with Windows 10 and that's the rub, it's a crap shoot since I knew I'd be able to get Linux to work fine I just didn't know how much work (if any) would be required. I was pleasantly surprised.
- cma 8y ago
  Windows subsystem for linux has pretty much achieved this.
cbm-vic-20 8y ago
I recently purchased my first non-Mac laptop, after owning a few MacBook Pros since 2007. My most recent MBP fried its discrete graphics chip, and it just didn't really make sense to pay what Apple wants for the current confused lineup. I ended up with a Dell XPS 9370, which has turned out to be a really nice little machine. Windows takes a bit of getting used to, but even Windows isn't nearly as awful as it used to be.
wodenokoto 8y ago
Looking at the competition nobody is even close to the "fraction of the cost" unless we are talking 9/10 or 4/5 as fractions. You can get a lighter and much more powerful Lenovo or Dell laptop but not for what you would normally call a fraction. And despite their good build quality, neither the masses nor the Mac complainers are buying XPS's or X1's. The reason is of course that they are neither universally better not significantly cheaper. Apple is still by far the best at things that are hard to put on a spec sheet, while Lenovo and Dells spec sheets are kicking Apples ass. And you are not going to see things change or a new player come in and take this market, because the market for laptops is shrinking. This is why apple is trying to increase revenue per unit and unit churn rate. Us premium laptop users are becoming a niche.

mediocrejoker 8y ago

Until a team with resources comparable to the OS X team puts in the effort to polish some Ubuntu derivative and make it work flawlessly with one or a few particular hardware configurations, Apple will still have an advantage that many are willing to pay a premium for.

noir_lord 8y ago
I have a T470P (the i7-7700HQ with 2560x1440@14" came in about half of a Macbook Pro in my country), I've genuinely had to do nothing to make Fedora 26 (then 27) work on it perfectly since I got it. It of course came with Windows 10 and that's the rub, it's a crap shoot since I knew I'd be able to get Linux to work fine I just didn't know how much work (if any) would be required. I was pleasantly surprised.
cma 8y ago
Windows subsystem for linux has pretty much achieved this.

cbm-vic-20 8y ago

I recently purchased my first non-Mac laptop, after owning a few MacBook Pros since 2007. My most recent MBP fried its discrete graphics chip, and it just didn't really make sense to pay what Apple wants for the current confused lineup. I ended up with a Dell XPS 9370, which has turned out to be a really nice little machine. Windows takes a bit of getting used to, but even Windows isn't nearly as awful as it used to be.

wodenokoto 8y ago

Looking at the competition nobody is even close to the "fraction of the cost" unless we are talking 9/10 or 4/5 as fractions. You can get a lighter and much more powerful Lenovo or Dell laptop but not for what you would normally call a fraction. And despite their good build quality, neither the masses nor the Mac complainers are buying XPS's or X1's. The reason is of course that they are neither universally better not significantly cheaper. Apple is still by far the best at things that are hard to put on a spec sheet, while Lenovo and Dells spec sheets are kicking Apples ass. And you are not going to see things change or a new player come in and take this market, because the market for laptops is shrinking. This is why apple is trying to increase revenue per unit and unit churn rate. Us premium laptop users are becoming a niche.