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This is really cool. I've been looking for such thing for a long time now. If you have a corporate Job like consulting or something equivalent it's very likel
by tinyvm 8y ago
This is really cool.
I've been looking for such thing for a long time now.
If you have a corporate Job like consulting or something equivalent it's very likely you are packing an awful laptop with you everywhere you go, a DELL or a Lenovo or something like that.
DEX opens a door for next generation Mobile Desktop , where you SmartPhone is also your Desktop Computer.
I really hope Apple does something similar in this area , the new iPad can be connected to a screen, but the real deal would be using the iPhone with as a laptop...
- soperj 8y agooh yeah, I'd hate to be stuck on a Thinkpad or and XPS machine, the 2 best laptops on the market.
- tinyvm 8y ago> oh yeah, I'd hate to be stuck on a Thinkpad or and XPS machine, the 2 best laptops on the market. Even when Excel , Chrome , Gmail take 30-50 seconds to open up ? And your laptop freezes when you are dealing with more than 10000 rows ? That's your opinion i guess.
- nine_k 8y agoI won't hope that a phone would handle 10000 rows much better. But that "Excel" thing might be an answer: the laptop must be running Windows, and Windows users often run an antivirus, and some Windows antivirus software is known to be terrible. (The MS-provided basic antivirus was always fine in this regard, though.)
- tinyvm 8y ago>I won't hope that a phone would handle 10000 rows much better. Galaxy S9 has 2 X 4 Core @ 2GHZ , my corporate laptop has an i5 from 2015 with 2 @ 2GHZ. I'll go with the Galaxy.
- taruz 8y agox86 GHz != ARM GHz
- pm_me_dick_p1cs 8y agoIf so, could you please explain me the last iPad Pro benchmark scores? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/11/2018-ipad-pro-review-whats-a-computer/4/#h5 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/11/2018-ipad-pro-review...
- drKarl 8y agoWell, GHz is GigaHerzs or 10^9 cycles/second. So Ghz is Ghz regardless of x86 or ARM as thisvis just the clock speed. Another discussion is how much work is done each cycle. For that you might use GigaFLOPS or TeraFLOPS (10^9 or 10^12 dloating operations per second) or another absolute measure of performance.
- vetinari 8y agoYet that i5 will be way faster than whatever ARM is in Galaxy. It will also have much faster SSD than the eMMC in phones, and will be paired with faster RAM to boot. All these things take way more energy, so your laptop will also have much bigger battery.
- philippeback 8y agoThe phone with 4G will not be subjected to stupid corporate firewall rules preventing access to, say, StackOverflow.
- piyh 8y agoI guess they like hiring more devs to do less work.
- solarengineer 8y agoSome exception cases: the phone needs to run a Mobile device management agent that installs and launches an antivirus, or the mobile happens to connect to a corporate VPN that routes all traffic and then inspects it via some appliance.
- timClicks 8y agoCortana (well, search indexing) also really hurts performance. They're both disk I/O heavy services and make the whole machine sluggish imo
- guelo 8y agoIndeed one of the biggest drains on corporate productivity are unaccountable bully IT departments. I recently quit a job because I wasn't allowed to escape aggressive antivirus software that made compilation insufferable.
- arbie 8y ago> I recently quit a job because I wasn't allowed to escape aggressive antivirus software that made compilation insufferable. This seems a drastic response.
- agency 8y agoWhy would running these things on your phone be faster?
- drngdds 8y agoIf Chrome takes 30-50 seconds to open and your computer was made in the past ten years, you should probably reformat
- eikenberry 8y agoWhat did they do to that poor computer? On my 3 year old Thinkpad Chrome/Firefox take < 1sec to start and Gmail takes a couple seconds to load. Can't talk Excel as I don't use it.
- Jaruzel 8y agoThe recipe is quite simple: 1. Take a nice shiny new laptop 2. Install Windows onto it. 3. Throw a large bucket of badly written monitoring apps, security apps, encryption apps, in-house apps, and pointless business notification apps. 4. Lock down the OS so the end-user can't remove or stop any of the added chaff. 5. Watch the nice shiny new laptop slow to crawl under the weight of all that crapware. This is speaking from experience - I have 10+ years of designing and deploying corporate Windows based Desktop/Laptop builds. It all starts fine, until some clueless internal committee decide that they want to install everything and the kitchen sink onto your nicely designed platform...
- nine_k 8y agoThe whole point on Dex is that you can connect a phone to a big screen and a big keyboard. Well, maybe your clients will provide you with a decent screen and a decent keyboard. (If I were a consultant, I'd pack my own. At this point lugging a laptop starts to make sense.)
- tk75x 8y agoBluetooth keyboard/mouse plus a USB-C to HDMI dongle would enable you to work in any conference room with a display available.
- rogerbinns 8y agoAlso consider Chromebooks. You get the desktop version of Chrome (ie whatever extensions you want), windowed interface, runs Android apps, and via the rapidly maturing Crostini project you can also run Linux apps. Heck on Intel based Chromebooks you can run Steam and use Proton/SteamPlay to run Windows games (and other Windows apps). The nicest thing about the Chromebooks is that the software is identical, but the hardware varies from $200 cheapo devices all the way up to almost $2,000. This means you are far more likely to find your own sweet spot of price, size, memory & cpu, storage etc. Some also have LTE so can be used as an alternative to a phone.
- wolfgke 8y ago> Also consider Chromebooks. Because of their dependence on Google servers, Chromebooks (or using any cloud-based service) make it very hard to satisfy confidentiality requirements that are imposed by clients for consulting jobs.
- Jaruzel 8y ago> DEX opens a door for next generation Mobile Desktop , where you SmartPhone is also your Desktop Computer. Remember, Microsoft tried this with Continuum for Windows 8/10 and Windows Mobile, it failed. No-one actually wanted the core of their desktop inside their phones. People have partitioned off different use-cases for their PC and smartphones, and the overlap is smaller than designers think.
- gcb0 8y agowe still need the pc revolution on mobile devices. we are still in the mainframe/timeshare stage.
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- wolfgke 8y ago> we still need the pc revolution on mobile devices. The PC revolution happened because of very open hardware specifications and a non-monopoly on the firmware (the IBM BIOS was reverse-engineered by Compaq).
- pjmlp 8y agoThat revolution was due to a mistake on IBM's part.
- j45 8y agoIt wasn't that no one wanted them - they just weren't powerful or portable enough. Snapdragon's 835 changed that. So will the A12X from Apple.
- H4CK3RM4N 8y agoI think you’re underestimating Apple’s chip performance. Going by https://browser.geekbench.com/ https://browser.geekbench.com/ the best performing Android devices(Samsung’s special thing for single-core, Snapdragon 845 in a OnePlus for multi-core) appear around even with an A10 for single-core and an A10X with multi-core. If this/last year’s Android chips were enough to make Dex viable, you’d expect last generation’s iPad Pro and the iPhone 7 to be capable of running Apple’s solution.
- MentallyRetired 8y agoI've been waiting for this for over a year. I got a note 8, a dex dock and everything... And it requires a note 9. Sunnuva.
- xte 8y agoDeX open the (back)door to (a big cucumber, sorry for being vulgar) port free software to proprietary jail and let users think they are free. A jail's a jail, no matter how big, decorated and comfortable seems to be.