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I follow them. You really have no choice if you care about your own and others safety.

• komali2 8y ago
  Well, thank you, that's very good, but that doesn't exactly solve the problem. I'm a hard-line rule following bicyclist, but I have no control over the other cyclists that blast past me at red lights. What are we supposed to do, render our nonexistent authority over them? I suppose I can say "please don't do that," but I try that and it has no effect.
  • robotkdick 8y ago
    I applaud your attempt at civil discourse. You deserve a medal for patience. Thank you for posting as I think discussions like this could use more of your style.
• danans 8y ago
  > if you care about your own Given how few of the riders are wearing helmets, they seem to at the very least be unaware of the risks they are taking. > ... and others safety. Power is intoxicating. Being in a more powerful vehicle on a surface shared with other less powerful vehicles makes some people ignore others' safety, or discount the way in which their actions imperil others. Anyone who has ridden a bike/motorcycle in regular traffic can attest to that experience around cars: you assume you are invisible to them. I've seen many high-powered cars/trucks/motorcycles swerving and accelerating dangerously around less powerful vehicles in traffic. Similarly, I've seen motorcycles driving fast down bike lanes to get around car traffic. It's a similar situation between the scooters and pedestrians on busy sidewalks.