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Welp. There goes the last laptop Apple makes without a garbage keyboard.
by yakshaving_jgt 8y ago
Welp. There goes the last laptop Apple makes without a garbage keyboard.
- olibaw 8y agoI'm weirdly ashamed to say I don't hate the new keyboard... I'm just not a keyboard connoisseur, it seems.
- yakshaving_jgt 8y agoI guess the way it feels is subjective — and I certainly have strong opinions about that. The two class action lawsuits against Apple for the butterfly switches however is some objective proof that something has gone terribly wrong.
- neolefty 8y agoFiling class action lawsuits is not proof of legitimacy, for example https://www.keytlaw.com/blog/2010/07/apple-sued-because-ipad-doesnt-work-just-like-a-book/ https://www.keytlaw.com/blog/2010/07/apple-sued-because-ipad...
- sagichmal 8y agoThat was for the previous Butterfly design, the new one (on the Air and now most Pros) purports to solve the problems.
- yakshaving_jgt 8y agoAs far as I know, there is no new design. They just now stick a plastic film under the keys to stop dust getting in and destroying your entire machine.
- sagichmal 8y agoDoes it work?
- vlozko 8y agoI actually like the new keyboard... :( My fingers feel a lot less fatigued over time vs using a traditional mechanical keyboard. And even compared to the 2015 MBP, the newer keyboards feel more comfortable to relax my fingers on. While I never bothered doing a speed comparison between the two, I feel like I type slightly faster, albeit with slightly more mistakes. For example, reaching for the y key will occasionally cause my pinky to accidentally press the semi-colon key.
- Wowfunhappy 8y agoThe keyboards seem to be very divisive. I know a lot of people who like them or don't mind them. I flat out cannot use them, and not for lack of trying.
- spronkey 8y agoI like the clickiness, and initial feel is very positive, but after a few minutes I find it really frustrating to type on them.
- willtim 8y agoMechanical keyboards should provide much less fatigue if you avoid "bottoming out", which is much easier to do when a key has lots of travel and a dampening force curve. Most people suffer fatigue from these very low travel Apple keyboards as fingers will come to an abrupt hard stop. It's almost like typing on a hard surface. The Apple keyboards were designed to be thin at the expense of everything else, reliability, maintainence, longevity, and comfort.
- zoltaan 8y agoalso no traditional USB and no MagSafe. My next laptop will be a non-Apple one. (luckily my McBook Air serves me well, recently extended its lifespan with new battery)