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This data set suggests that workers in the US put in long hours. I’m on my phone and it isn’t sorted, doesn’t have China in there either. https://en.m.wikipedi
by geebee 8y ago
This data set suggests that workers in the US put in long hours. I’m on my phone and it isn’t sorted, doesn’t have China in there either.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_average_annual_labor_hours_in_OECD_countries https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_average_annual_labor...
I suppose when you’re a superpower up against the other superpowers, then maybe how you stack up against prosperous small republics with small armies and a high standard of living isn’t the point though.
- Swizec 8y agoAmericans put in long hours but they don’t work hard. Most of it is posturing and staying in the office longer than your boss even if you spend half the time chatting away on slack. Some work hard of course. Nobody puts in ling hard hours. You can either work hard or work long. They are mutually exclusive. Such is life. You put in the type of work your boss appreciates. That said: you can always squeeze in another email or another meeting. Manager mode thrives under long hours. Try to squeeze in another hour of creating and you just spend 2 hours fixing it tomorrow.
- Konnstann 8y agoAmericans working white-collar jobs may not work both long and hard, but people working 2+ manual labor jobs sure do.
- Swizec 8y agoYou are correct. I was talking about the white collar bubble, which seems reasonable since we're talking in the VC-funded ecosystem. Do VCs often fund companies that are full of people working 2+ manual labor jobs?
- jpatokal 8y agoPeople looking for a second manual labor job are the mainstay of the gig economy (Uber, Airtasker, etc).
- Konnstann 8y agoThe comment you were replying to makes no mention of the VC environment, merely the hours that people work in various countries. VCs also don't fund companies full of people who "hardly do any work", they fund outliers full of passionate people who work twice as hard to make up for lack of manpower.
- geebee 8y agoWhite collar workers may actually work long and hard hours and be very exhausted by them. They may be unproductive, though. Or if they are “productive” in the sense that they complete a task, often the task itself adds little value. The white collar workers actually aren’t necessarily lazy though, which is why the bullshit work thing is kinda tragic.
- geebee 8y agoOh I fully agree that the long hours aren’t highly productive in the long run. I actually do think people work long and hard hours in the sense that they are exhausted and not chillin at the water cooler, but I doubt they’re terribly productive. I wouldn’t call that lazy though, just counter productive.