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>And if you are ecologically minded, thats interesting. This doesn't follow. If you were truly ecologically minded, you'd cheer on all the automakers in their

>And if you are ecologically minded, thats interesting. This doesn't follow. If you were truly ecologically minded, you'd cheer on all the automakers in their move to EVs, not one in specific with a microscopic market share. BMW has more potential to shift the landscape than Tesla.

Arnt 8y ago
Tesla is shifting the landscape, BMW could be. Comparing the indicative with the indicative mood isn't fair. Vapourware always/never beats what's shipping.
codeulike 8y ago
Well thats true, I do want other automakers to follow. That's Tesla's stated mission actually - to accelerate the transition to sustainable transport. So perhaps this market valuation will give BMW a kick up the arse. BMW and all the other major carmakers are continually announcing how they're going to start producing loads of EVs blah blah, but its always still 'a few years away'. And seems to have been like that for a decade now. I think there is some sort of deadlock at the senior management level. Also, Tesla's market share is no longer microscopic and the likelihood is its going to continue to grow. Thats the whole point of the market valuation that this conversation we're having is about.
the_duke 8y ago
Tesla has definitely given a tremendous push to the market. I highly doubt the EV efforts would be nearly as far along as they are without Tesla, and the danger that the catch-up activity by other players dies down again if Tesla goes under is very real. (until the Chinese manufacturers start tackling the European market, that is) There is nothing better to put pressure on other manufacturers than a successful EV vendor.
DennisP 8y ago
Maybe, but Tesla is selling significantly more cars than BMW right now. When another automaker starts selling an all-electric lineup, I'll cheer for them as much as for Tesla.
- whtswrong 8y ago
  >Tesla is selling significantly more cars than BMW right now. By "right now" you mean for a single historical quarter, in one specific, shrinking auto segment (sedans), in one global market right (USA), correct? Because, again, BMW sells 250k vehicles globally, per month. Torture the data enough and anyone can be a leader.

Arnt 8y ago

Tesla is shifting the landscape, BMW could be. Comparing the indicative with the indicative mood isn't fair. Vapourware always/never beats what's shipping.

codeulike 8y ago

Well thats true, I do want other automakers to follow. That's Tesla's stated mission actually - to accelerate the transition to sustainable transport. So perhaps this market valuation will give BMW a kick up the arse. BMW and all the other major carmakers are continually announcing how they're going to start producing loads of EVs blah blah, but its always still 'a few years away'. And seems to have been like that for a decade now. I think there is some sort of deadlock at the senior management level. Also, Tesla's market share is no longer microscopic and the likelihood is its going to continue to grow. Thats the whole point of the market valuation that this conversation we're having is about.

the_duke 8y ago

Tesla has definitely given a tremendous push to the market. I highly doubt the EV efforts would be nearly as far along as they are without Tesla, and the danger that the catch-up activity by other players dies down again if Tesla goes under is very real. (until the Chinese manufacturers start tackling the European market, that is) There is nothing better to put pressure on other manufacturers than a successful EV vendor.

DennisP 8y ago

Maybe, but Tesla is selling significantly more cars than BMW right now. When another automaker starts selling an all-electric lineup, I'll cheer for them as much as for Tesla.

whtswrong 8y ago
>Tesla is selling significantly more cars than BMW right now. By "right now" you mean for a single historical quarter, in one specific, shrinking auto segment (sedans), in one global market right (USA), correct? Because, again, BMW sells 250k vehicles globally, per month. Torture the data enough and anyone can be a leader.