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What do you mean "connected"? They can still live and feel like a man or woman, without their respective physical features, right? Just be a man, with female fe

What do you mean "connected"? They can still live and feel like a man or woman, without their respective physical features, right? Just be a man, with female features (or vice versa) and surround yourself with people who support and don't judge you upon the facts. Why can't they accept their bodies? I, personally, I can perfectly accept other people with their respective identities, I don't really care what the people think they are. But, as soon they let cut themselves up and are heavily medicated, I begin to sense that they have trouble accepting themselves as who they are. I've had trouble accepting my own sexuality and features of my body, so I know exactly what I'm talking about.

rectang 8y ago
I'm not trans, but I am acquainted with many trans people including an awesome past colleague. So take this for what it's worth from another person doing their best to understand gender dysphoria. Imagine that you were to wake up and find yourself in the body of the opposite gender, yet with your sense of attraction and your personal identity unchanged. Wouldn't many of your mannerisms seem awkward to you and to others? Would others be willing to accept your assertion of a gender that was at odds with your appearance? Would you? > But, as soon they let cut themselves up and are heavily medicated, I begin to sense that they have trouble accepting themselves as who they are. It doesn't get talked about much, but many of the treatments are painful, inconvenient, have difficult side effects, and do not always yield results which satisfy the subject. That people are willing to go through them nevertheless says a lot.
- dschuetz 8y ago
  An interesting question. Why would it seem awkward though? I have mannerism that always did seem different to others which didn't bother me much, even when I was being bullied for that. Why am I different, just because I refuse to modify my mannerism, or modify others to accept that? Lacking the guts, or the strenght to stand up to bullies is not easy. But it should prevent any further damage to one's personality or identity. Self-acceptance is crucial. I've always understood such drastic moves as acts of desperation. My point is that I want to understand what causes such desparation. I suspect that what you call gender dysphoria isn't the prime cause. But I can't know for sure without talking and learning about personal/individual experiences of trans people.
  - rectang 8y ago
    > Self-acceptance is crucial. However laudable, is that not an ethic rather than an objective assessment? I don't see why that should make us doubt the voices of trans individuals as they describe their situation, even if we might wish for them to achieve self-acceptance. > I suspect that what you call gender dysphoria isn't the prime cause. That's not my terminology; it belongs to the medical establishment. https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphori... It seems to me like you have idiosyncratic experiences, which are perhaps very interesting, but may not apply well to the lives of trans people.

rectang 8y ago

I'm not trans, but I am acquainted with many trans people including an awesome past colleague. So take this for what it's worth from another person doing their best to understand gender dysphoria. Imagine that you were to wake up and find yourself in the body of the opposite gender, yet with your sense of attraction and your personal identity unchanged. Wouldn't many of your mannerisms seem awkward to you and to others? Would others be willing to accept your assertion of a gender that was at odds with your appearance? Would you? > But, as soon they let cut themselves up and are heavily medicated, I begin to sense that they have trouble accepting themselves as who they are. It doesn't get talked about much, but many of the treatments are painful, inconvenient, have difficult side effects, and do not always yield results which satisfy the subject. That people are willing to go through them nevertheless says a lot.

dschuetz 8y ago
An interesting question. Why would it seem awkward though? I have mannerism that always did seem different to others which didn't bother me much, even when I was being bullied for that. Why am I different, just because I refuse to modify my mannerism, or modify others to accept that? Lacking the guts, or the strenght to stand up to bullies is not easy. But it should prevent any further damage to one's personality or identity. Self-acceptance is crucial. I've always understood such drastic moves as acts of desperation. My point is that I want to understand what causes such desparation. I suspect that what you call gender dysphoria isn't the prime cause. But I can't know for sure without talking and learning about personal/individual experiences of trans people.
- rectang 8y ago
  > Self-acceptance is crucial. However laudable, is that not an ethic rather than an objective assessment? I don't see why that should make us doubt the voices of trans individuals as they describe their situation, even if we might wish for them to achieve self-acceptance. > I suspect that what you call gender dysphoria isn't the prime cause. That's not my terminology; it belongs to the medical establishment. https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphori... It seems to me like you have idiosyncratic experiences, which are perhaps very interesting, but may not apply well to the lives of trans people.