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What you know to be true yes, just don't call it science. "I think I have given sufficient examples that disagree with what you are saying." You haven't given

What you know to be true yes, just don't call it science. "I think I have given sufficient examples that disagree with what you are saying." You haven't given a single one. You are talking about people who are already rich and can afford to moralize over what food they put in their mouth. That's a very different kind of people than I talk about. "I don't know which aspect of the Chinese economy you are referring to. The electronics part, where there is no lack of signal from the countries it exports to, or its investment in green tech, in which case we may consider the Govt. one disproportionately strong actor in collective signalling." I am talking about the fact that the chinese market isn't free and open yet does very well.

jhanschoo 8y ago
> What you know to be true yes, just don't call it science. It is science; basic chemistry tells you that carbon is conserved give or take a few nuclear reactions. > You are talking about people who are already rich and can afford to moralize over what food they put in their mouth. That's a very different kind of people than I talk about. I address that in the same paragraph >> With respect to less prosperous communities, it is often the case that they have a more collectivistic mindset and community and in fact live under more taboos. Consider superstitions, rituals, and religious dietary restrictions. > I am talking about the fact that the chinese market isn't free and open yet does very well. Thanks for clarifying, in part, but I still don't see how this is an argument against to my notion of collective action being an essential component of technological development.