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My town has annual “Town Meetings” where everyone pours into a gymnasium (turnout is up to 800 voters in a town with population ~15,000) to vote on all the “art
by zaroth 8y ago
My town has annual “Town Meetings” where everyone pours into a gymnasium (turnout is up to 800 voters in a town with population ~15,000) to vote on all the “articles” of which there can be upwards of 20. The annual meeting often extends multiple evenings as much discussion is permitted on each article, and traditional voting can add several hours to the process when vote counts are close.
Instead of shouting aye or nay, raising hands, or standing to be counted, we hand out wireless handsets which have a yes/no buttons and a small display to confirm your vote. Then a screen at the front displays the total.
The cost of renting the devices is non-trivial at around $15-20k (having trouble finding our towns specific budget line item for this) so I often pondered why we couldn’t use smartphones that everyone is surely already carrying, and maybe carry a small stock of devices just for people without phones.
The idea would be a local WiFi network which was not connected to the internet, where an app on the device would connect to a local server over that WiFi network to place the vote, after someone checks you in at the front desk.
I have no reason to trust the devices we use now any more than an open-source public domain phone app and backend container combo that the town could setup.
Over thousands of towns and tens of years the TAM is pretty large, but more to the point a non-profit coalition developing and maintaining this solution could provide a lot of value.
- umanwizard 8y ago~$20 per device to RENT a very basic and simple piece of electronics seems like a huge ripoff. That company must have an amazing profit margin.
- Steltek 8y agoYikes, I can see a lot of our TMM's having trouble with phones. It'd be better to just invest in dedicated phones and not allow BYOD. In fact, I can see some TMM's trying to get away with voting remotely (attendance is sometimes challenging). That said, the remotes are amazingly useful for going back and looking over the results.
- zaroth 8y agoTo be clear, they are wireless remotes, but you have to be in the room. And even these dedicated devices are not entirely frustration free, sometimes they have to revert to hand counting. I don’t think anything is saved within each device, just the totals. They say there’s no way to know how each individual device (and therefore device-holder) voted. I doubt strongly there is any actual crypto guaranteeing this though.
- gpm 8y agoI have reason to trust that device more than your phone. Your phone is exposed to malware over the internet 24x7 and is basically known to be vulnerable based on history. On the other hand I'm not sure I'm too worried about hacking of in person town meetings. It seems high risk/reward and relatively likely to be caught.