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No, for the girls it's fine. It is the boys who suffer long term, also from the school system that currently indoctrinates them against biology and their inter

by xc1005 8y ago

No, for the girls it's fine. It is the boys who suffer long term, also from the school system that currently indoctrinates them against biology and their interests.

swish_bob 8y ago
Rot. My boys both clearly gain from having girls in the Scouts and Explorers. In fact, the issues that my youngest's Scout pack are currently suffering from are pretty much all linked to the sort of crappy behaviour you get when boys are brought up the way you appear to be suggesting is a positive thing.
- gmk2 8y ago
  OP said "long term". Probably meaning "Do they still gain after their first divorce and losing half of their assets?".
  - Angostura 8y ago
    You have solid connection between boys being involved in physical activities with girls when growing up and the likelihood of divorce? Thought not.
  - swish_bob 8y ago
    I'm confident that exposure to girls during Scouts is decreasing their likelihood of getting divorced, rather than increasing it. Or do you honestly believe that toxic masculine behaviour is correlated to staying married? I mean, I suppose that it's possible: certainly escaping an abusive relationship is documented to be harder than leaving one that's healthy, just not working, so you could be right ...
Angostura 8y ago
> indoctrinates them against biology and their interests. What does that even mean? There's about a 50:50 mix in the Scout Troop at the moment. When I went to Scouts as a kid, it was all male. From what I can tell, the activities haven't changed a bit. You just have two single-sex tents on camping trips. What is the biological imperative that's being indoctrinated here? They aren't being forced into doing needle-point badges (all though, I seem to remember 40 years ago doing a sewing badge, my chain-stitch is still a marvel). I absolutely agree that there is a problem with boy's achievement and schooling (I was a school governor), but there are heroic attempts underway to try and adjust things to be boy friendly.
- dudul 8y ago
  Note that the portion you quote was about the school system, not Scouts.

by xc1005 8y ago

No, for the girls it's fine. It is the boys who suffer long term, also from the school system that currently indoctrinates them against biology and their interests.

swish_bob 8y ago

Rot. My boys both clearly gain from having girls in the Scouts and Explorers. In fact, the issues that my youngest's Scout pack are currently suffering from are pretty much all linked to the sort of crappy behaviour you get when boys are brought up the way you appear to be suggesting is a positive thing.

gmk2 8y ago
OP said "long term". Probably meaning "Do they still gain after their first divorce and losing half of their assets?".
- Angostura 8y ago
  You have solid connection between boys being involved in physical activities with girls when growing up and the likelihood of divorce? Thought not.
- swish_bob 8y ago
  I'm confident that exposure to girls during Scouts is decreasing their likelihood of getting divorced, rather than increasing it. Or do you honestly believe that toxic masculine behaviour is correlated to staying married? I mean, I suppose that it's possible: certainly escaping an abusive relationship is documented to be harder than leaving one that's healthy, just not working, so you could be right ...

Angostura 8y ago

> indoctrinates them against biology and their interests. What does that even mean? There's about a 50:50 mix in the Scout Troop at the moment. When I went to Scouts as a kid, it was all male. From what I can tell, the activities haven't changed a bit. You just have two single-sex tents on camping trips. What is the biological imperative that's being indoctrinated here? They aren't being forced into doing needle-point badges (all though, I seem to remember 40 years ago doing a sewing badge, my chain-stitch is still a marvel). I absolutely agree that there is a problem with boy's achievement and schooling (I was a school governor), but there are heroic attempts underway to try and adjust things to be boy friendly.

dudul 8y ago
Note that the portion you quote was about the school system, not Scouts.