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> because they require a massive infrastructure of sewer lines and treatment plants How do you think economies grow? Job creation at this scale has to be funde

> because they require a massive infrastructure of sewer lines and treatment plants How do you think economies grow? Job creation at this scale has to be funded out of tax receipts and bonds. The problem is managing the corruption (note: one must assume there are corrupt actors. The trick is managing them).

jniedrauer 8y ago
"Job creation" by itself isn't a very noble goal. Creating hamster wheels for humans to run on is comically cruel and pointless.
- tormeh 8y ago
  Life is a hamster wheel for humans. But, yes, it's a dumb idea.
- gnode 8y ago
  Fundamentally I agree with this, it's very inefficient and wasteful of resources, although I sometimes wonder whether it's the only practical way to provide welfare in places where politics / prevalent ideology oppose direct social policies.
  - mamon 8y ago
    It can also be argued that charities providing all those third world country with basic supplies, like food, clothes or drugs, actually ruin their economies. It's simply impossible for local producers of said goods to compete on price with charity organization that gives those away for free. If a corporation would try to do that in US, it would be called price dumping and trigger antimonopoly lawsuit against them, but somehow, when it's done to poor African countries we consider it OK, and even expect them to be gratefull for it. EDIT: I think that China does much better job helping them by making actual investments in their economies, building railroads, factories, etc. You might question their intentions, but you cannot question the results.
- killjoywashere 8y ago
  Have you ever given someone a job? My experience has been people crave purpose. Sometimes more than life itself.
kiriakasis 8y ago
>> because they require a massive infrastructure of sewer lines and treatment plants >How do you think economies grow? sometimes not by taking debt for public infrastructure they have no way of maintaining

jniedrauer 8y ago

"Job creation" by itself isn't a very noble goal. Creating hamster wheels for humans to run on is comically cruel and pointless.

tormeh 8y ago
Life is a hamster wheel for humans. But, yes, it's a dumb idea.
gnode 8y ago
Fundamentally I agree with this, it's very inefficient and wasteful of resources, although I sometimes wonder whether it's the only practical way to provide welfare in places where politics / prevalent ideology oppose direct social policies.
- mamon 8y ago
  It can also be argued that charities providing all those third world country with basic supplies, like food, clothes or drugs, actually ruin their economies. It's simply impossible for local producers of said goods to compete on price with charity organization that gives those away for free. If a corporation would try to do that in US, it would be called price dumping and trigger antimonopoly lawsuit against them, but somehow, when it's done to poor African countries we consider it OK, and even expect them to be gratefull for it. EDIT: I think that China does much better job helping them by making actual investments in their economies, building railroads, factories, etc. You might question their intentions, but you cannot question the results.
killjoywashere 8y ago
Have you ever given someone a job? My experience has been people crave purpose. Sometimes more than life itself.

kiriakasis 8y ago

>> because they require a massive infrastructure of sewer lines and treatment plants >How do you think economies grow? sometimes not by taking debt for public infrastructure they have no way of maintaining