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I am the Cubmaster of a large Cub Scout pack (>150 kids). Admitting girls has been a non-issue, except to local Girl Scouts USA activists (long story, and it wa

I am the Cubmaster of a large Cub Scout pack (>150 kids). Admitting girls has been a non-issue, except to local Girl Scouts USA activists (long story, and it wasn't pretty). Girls have always been in Boy Scouts: sisters have ALWAYS been coming to meetings. Now they get to earn badges, too. My son still picks boogers and giggles at farts even with girls around. This lawsuit is but the latest in GSUSA's petty-ness. I don't want to harm local Girl Scout troops, so we've been laying low at recruiting girls at schools with GSUSA presence. But my patience with GSUSA is running thin.

nedwin 8y ago
Keen to hear the long story. Any articles you recommend as someone in the know?
taeric 8y ago
As a counterpoint, I've actually been kind of annoyed with the local boy scouts for getting somewhat active trying to recruit my girls to their scouts. I get that they likely mean well, but my kids are already quite happy in the girl scouts. No need to try and confuse things by trying to "turn a new leaf." I confess I assumed you were both the same organization years ago. Found out you weren't, and largely didn't care. That it largely seems to be an image saving move by the boy scouts, though, does give a bad taste.
- em-bee 8y ago
  ugh, yeah, active members for one group should be off limits for recruitment by the other. the goal should be to get more kids into scouting, not to poach each others membership. i hope this kind of behavior is not common. greetings, eMBee
  - taeric 8y ago
    Being fair, I don't think most of it is intentional. Just if they see us out, they ask if they know the boy scouts allow girls to join. If they just ask if they know the "scouts" allow girls, it just confuses them. Of course there girl scouts allow girls to join.
CobrastanJorji 8y ago
> Girls have always been in Boy Scouts. Now they get to earn badges, too. Yes, and before 1920, women were frequently allowed into statehouses. They just didn't get to vote. Turns out that was a pretty important distinction.
- EpicEng 8y ago
  Yes, those two things are pretty much on the same level. The OP was speaking in regards to how boys act around girls, not making a defense of any policy.
  - CobrastanJorji 8y ago
    "Admitting girls has been a non-issue" is very much a policy statement. It implies that Boy Scouts weren't doing anything wrong before because women have always been a part of it. There was never a problem. Allowing girls to formally join is just the icing on the cake. But there WAS an issue before. Despite the fact that Johnny's sister was allowed to watch the knot-tying lessons, refusing to give her a uniform and a badge was very much an issue to her, and saying it wasn't should be called out.

nedwin 8y ago

Keen to hear the long story. Any articles you recommend as someone in the know?

taeric 8y ago

As a counterpoint, I've actually been kind of annoyed with the local boy scouts for getting somewhat active trying to recruit my girls to their scouts. I get that they likely mean well, but my kids are already quite happy in the girl scouts. No need to try and confuse things by trying to "turn a new leaf." I confess I assumed you were both the same organization years ago. Found out you weren't, and largely didn't care. That it largely seems to be an image saving move by the boy scouts, though, does give a bad taste.

em-bee 8y ago
ugh, yeah, active members for one group should be off limits for recruitment by the other. the goal should be to get more kids into scouting, not to poach each others membership. i hope this kind of behavior is not common. greetings, eMBee
- taeric 8y ago
  Being fair, I don't think most of it is intentional. Just if they see us out, they ask if they know the boy scouts allow girls to join. If they just ask if they know the "scouts" allow girls, it just confuses them. Of course there girl scouts allow girls to join.

CobrastanJorji 8y ago

> Girls have always been in Boy Scouts. Now they get to earn badges, too. Yes, and before 1920, women were frequently allowed into statehouses. They just didn't get to vote. Turns out that was a pretty important distinction.

EpicEng 8y ago
Yes, those two things are pretty much on the same level. The OP was speaking in regards to how boys act around girls, not making a defense of any policy.
- CobrastanJorji 8y ago
  "Admitting girls has been a non-issue" is very much a policy statement. It implies that Boy Scouts weren't doing anything wrong before because women have always been a part of it. There was never a problem. Allowing girls to formally join is just the icing on the cake. But there WAS an issue before. Despite the fact that Johnny's sister was allowed to watch the knot-tying lessons, refusing to give her a uniform and a badge was very much an issue to her, and saying it wasn't should be called out.