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You're forgetting geographical availability. Where is their DC in Sydney or Brisbane, Australia? How about Singapore? Or Japan? Unless you're in Germany, Germa

by movedx 8y ago

You're forgetting geographical availability. Where is their DC in Sydney or Brisbane, Australia? How about Singapore? Or Japan? Unless you're in Germany, Germany, or, perhaps, Germany (or Finland) then you're adding a lot (yes, a lot) of latency to network requests for anyone outside of Germany and especially anyone on another landmass.

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metildaa 8y ago
OVH has POPs all over despite being a value server provider. You get quite a bit for how little you pay, plus they have working IPv6 (really important for mobile networks) unlike the major cloud vendors.
- zaarn 8y ago
  From experience, OVH's IPv6 is sadly a bit... broken. They don't send proper router advertisements on the network, which confuses the hell out of any proper firewall or router you try to setup for it.
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  - metildaa 8y ago
    OVH does have its quirks (eg: pushing systemd-networkd and not using route advertisments) but their network is significantly better if you need to avoid the IPv4 CGNAT that cellphones sit behind, as IPv6 is the only means of doing so (long lived connections, 20ms or so latency savings, skip Firebase messaging, etc). Other issues we ran into with AWS include congested peering with Centurylink & most Asian Pacific countries. Having gigabit via Centurylink and only being able to fill 2MB/s from AWS is crummy, esp. when competitors can reliably push many multiples of that.
Bootvis 8y ago
Germany and Europe are smaller than you seem to believe. The coverage of AWS in Europe is in fact quite limited: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/
- movedx 8y ago
  I live in Australia. I'm from England. I understand how big Europe is, thanks. And you missed my point: a server in Germany, despite being cheap, is no good to the communities I host for Australian businesses. Hetzner is excellent. I've used them and OVH for years. No good for me or my clients here in Australia, though.

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metildaa 8y ago

OVH has POPs all over despite being a value server provider. You get quite a bit for how little you pay, plus they have working IPv6 (really important for mobile networks) unlike the major cloud vendors.

zaarn 8y ago
From experience, OVH's IPv6 is sadly a bit... broken. They don't send proper router advertisements on the network, which confuses the hell out of any proper firewall or router you try to setup for it.
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- metildaa 8y ago
  OVH does have its quirks (eg: pushing systemd-networkd and not using route advertisments) but their network is significantly better if you need to avoid the IPv4 CGNAT that cellphones sit behind, as IPv6 is the only means of doing so (long lived connections, 20ms or so latency savings, skip Firebase messaging, etc). Other issues we ran into with AWS include congested peering with Centurylink & most Asian Pacific countries. Having gigabit via Centurylink and only being able to fill 2MB/s from AWS is crummy, esp. when competitors can reliably push many multiples of that.

Bootvis 8y ago

Germany and Europe are smaller than you seem to believe. The coverage of AWS in Europe is in fact quite limited: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/

movedx 8y ago
I live in Australia. I'm from England. I understand how big Europe is, thanks. And you missed my point: a server in Germany, despite being cheap, is no good to the communities I host for Australian businesses. Hetzner is excellent. I've used them and OVH for years. No good for me or my clients here in Australia, though.