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Intel Xeon Platinum 8180 is currently sold for $10k USD each, it comes with 28 cores. For 48 cores and 12 memory channels, you can almost be assured to see a pr

Intel Xeon Platinum 8180 is currently sold for $10k USD each, it comes with 28 cores. For 48 cores and 12 memory channels, you can almost be assured to see a price tag of close to $20k USD. So basically when they fail to come up with some better architectures to face the competition from AMD, they choose to glue up their out of date designs (out of date when compared with Zen2 based new Epyc line) and sell you as a bundle without significant price cut! To be honest, I am not surprised - we are talking about a company that worked so hard for 10 years to fool its customers on why they don't need more than 4 cores on desktops. The whole joke is so INTEL!

yread 8y ago
That's the list price, not many customers pay that
- dis-sys 8y ago
  because AMD joined the competition again with its EPYC product line.
- aseipp 8y ago
  It's wild that so many people here think that e.g. major cloud vendors use the same purchasing logic for multi-hundred-million dollar deals on tens/hundreds of thousands of units, that a 17 year old uses when deciding how to spend $700 on a new computer. "They're scared", "Zen is a superior product", "EPYC/Rome will blow them away", etc. It doesn't actually matter. Not only do many customers not pay the list price you see, they get custom SKUs specifically designed for them -- which is a growing portion of their Xeon business and one AMD has no clear, large-scale answer to AFAICS. And they basically can't get enough of them. Xeons practically print money and Intel recently announced something like 16% revenue increases and even higher demands for Xeon than they've ever had. They just invested an extra billion in new fab production just because they're at capacity right now... Intel is going to remain very strong in this market for a good, long time as far as I can tell, and things like list SKU prices are an incredibly, ridiculously small reason to believe otherwise. That said I'm very happy with the price/power ratio of my TR 1950X.
  - tutanchamun 8y ago
    > which is a growing portion of their Xeon business and one AMD has no clear, large-scale answer to AFAICS Probably depends on the size of the company. AMD has their semi custom department which was responsible for the PS4 and Xbox One, as well as PS4 Pro, Xbox One X (the GPUs are based on Polaris but have features from Vega, which no normal Polaris GPU has) and Subor Z (Zen APU with GDDR5 as main memory like the consoles, but can run Windows). AMD is probably the better vendor if you want custom SKUs (as the underdog they also have more incentive for custom SKUs).
rbanffy 8y ago
If it costs twice as much per socket but the same per core, and allows me to use half as much space, half as much cooling, 25% less energy to run the same workloads for the next five years, I'm in.

yread 8y ago

That's the list price, not many customers pay that

dis-sys 8y ago
because AMD joined the competition again with its EPYC product line.
aseipp 8y ago
It's wild that so many people here think that e.g. major cloud vendors use the same purchasing logic for multi-hundred-million dollar deals on tens/hundreds of thousands of units, that a 17 year old uses when deciding how to spend $700 on a new computer. "They're scared", "Zen is a superior product", "EPYC/Rome will blow them away", etc. It doesn't actually matter. Not only do many customers not pay the list price you see, they get custom SKUs specifically designed for them -- which is a growing portion of their Xeon business and one AMD has no clear, large-scale answer to AFAICS. And they basically can't get enough of them. Xeons practically print money and Intel recently announced something like 16% revenue increases and even higher demands for Xeon than they've ever had. They just invested an extra billion in new fab production just because they're at capacity right now... Intel is going to remain very strong in this market for a good, long time as far as I can tell, and things like list SKU prices are an incredibly, ridiculously small reason to believe otherwise. That said I'm very happy with the price/power ratio of my TR 1950X.
- tutanchamun 8y ago
  > which is a growing portion of their Xeon business and one AMD has no clear, large-scale answer to AFAICS Probably depends on the size of the company. AMD has their semi custom department which was responsible for the PS4 and Xbox One, as well as PS4 Pro, Xbox One X (the GPUs are based on Polaris but have features from Vega, which no normal Polaris GPU has) and Subor Z (Zen APU with GDDR5 as main memory like the consoles, but can run Windows). AMD is probably the better vendor if you want custom SKUs (as the underdog they also have more incentive for custom SKUs).

rbanffy 8y ago

If it costs twice as much per socket but the same per core, and allows me to use half as much space, half as much cooling, 25% less energy to run the same workloads for the next five years, I'm in.