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"the fact that they have had 3 inspections in a single year... That is a matter for concern, since CalOSHA generally doesn't inspect a workplace more than once

by loceng 8y ago

"the fact that they have had 3 inspections in a single year... That is a matter for concern, since CalOSHA generally doesn't inspect a workplace more than once every few years. If they felt that multiple inspections were warranted--especially a new one so soon after finishing a thorough, months-long inspection, that means they have serious concerns about Tesla's safety practices. " Or that Tesla's the most shorted stock in history and there's a lot of negative, probable propaganda, being created/distributed to impact the stock price.

village-idiot 8y ago
Conspiratorial thinking is a bad look.
- loceng 8y ago
  Hiding behind an anonymous username generally bodes a worse look IMHO, similarly making an empty statement - your short and shallow quip that's meant as a put down - instead of engaging in critical thinking and dialogue. I'm guessing you downvoted me too, if not, lots of people prefer to react impulsively and are too lazy to actually engage in civil discourse.
- hackerman12345 8y ago
  On the other hand, we do already have evidence that there are individuals who get a job at Tesla with the sole goal of getting them to unionize and no motivations actually wanting/needing the job.
  - village-idiot 8y ago
    Are you asserting that union activists are related to a short short seller conspiracy, or are you just suggestively placing those next to each other and hoping that people draw a sinister conclusion? Union activists join tons of companies to try and unionize them, because get this, they’re union activists. They think unionizing labor is a moral imperative, and so they act as such. You might not like it, but it’s hardly unique to Tesla or a big dark conspiracy.
gamblor956 8y ago
Tesla is not the most shorted stock in history. It's not even number one right now. Alibaba has more shorts, by absolute value, and Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer, General Electric and Procter & Gamble have all recently had larger shorts by relative value. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-16/musk-calls-tesla-most-shorted-stock-ever-technically-it-s-not https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-16/musk-call... The shorts aren't behind a massive conspiracy to destroy Tesla. Hell, this summer, Elon Musk almost destroyed Tesla all on his own and he's Tesla's biggest shareholder. Tesla's problem is a constant failure to properly execute. It's happened with every model they've made, with every endeavor they've undertaken. They've constantly over-promised and just as constantly under-delivered. (And please, none of this BS about how they're trying to accomplish great things. Other companies are also trying to accomplish great things--and actually succeed in doing so without constantly bragging about what they're trying to do.) Tesla may have a great vision for cars. But a great vision without proper execution just means having the best seats for watching someone else succeed in their place.

by loceng 8y ago

village-idiot 8y ago

Conspiratorial thinking is a bad look.

loceng 8y ago
Hiding behind an anonymous username generally bodes a worse look IMHO, similarly making an empty statement - your short and shallow quip that's meant as a put down - instead of engaging in critical thinking and dialogue. I'm guessing you downvoted me too, if not, lots of people prefer to react impulsively and are too lazy to actually engage in civil discourse.
hackerman12345 8y ago
On the other hand, we do already have evidence that there are individuals who get a job at Tesla with the sole goal of getting them to unionize and no motivations actually wanting/needing the job.
- village-idiot 8y ago
  Are you asserting that union activists are related to a short short seller conspiracy, or are you just suggestively placing those next to each other and hoping that people draw a sinister conclusion? Union activists join tons of companies to try and unionize them, because get this, they’re union activists. They think unionizing labor is a moral imperative, and so they act as such. You might not like it, but it’s hardly unique to Tesla or a big dark conspiracy.

gamblor956 8y ago

Tesla is not the most shorted stock in history. It's not even number one right now. Alibaba has more shorts, by absolute value, and Johnson & Johnson, Pfizer, General Electric and Procter & Gamble have all recently had larger shorts by relative value. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-16/musk-calls-tesla-most-shorted-stock-ever-technically-it-s-not https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-16/musk-call... The shorts aren't behind a massive conspiracy to destroy Tesla. Hell, this summer, Elon Musk almost destroyed Tesla all on his own and he's Tesla's biggest shareholder. Tesla's problem is a constant failure to properly execute. It's happened with every model they've made, with every endeavor they've undertaken. They've constantly over-promised and just as constantly under-delivered. (And please, none of this BS about how they're trying to accomplish great things. Other companies are also trying to accomplish great things--and actually succeed in doing so without constantly bragging about what they're trying to do.) Tesla may have a great vision for cars. But a great vision without proper execution just means having the best seats for watching someone else succeed in their place.