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A huge chunk of that is the SSD. It's actually very reasonably priced, especially considering that you get a Mac ecosystem along with the computer.

by sgt 8y ago

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
Have you looked at SSD prices lately!?
- falcolas 8y ago
  I'm with you. A very high end 1TB M2 SSD card can be had for under $400, with good SSD cards being under $200.
  - wlesieutre 8y ago
    The pretty-high-end 1TB Samsung 970 EVO has dropped as low as $228 recently from multiple vendors. https://slickdeals.net/f/12192367-1tb-samsung-970-evo-nvme-m-2-internal-solid-state-drive-228-free-shipping https://slickdeals.net/f/12192367-1tb-samsung-970-evo-nvme-m... If you really need the very-high-end, then yeah, the 970 PRO is just shy of $400. For cheaper stuff, ADATA's 960GB was recently down around $180. SSD prices have really dropped the last few months.
ksec 8y ago
The price for those SSD upgrade are more than double of the current Retail Pro Level SSD at same capacity and similar speed. Which Apple saves on SSD Controller, better NAND pricing, no retail and distributor margin. Even though I expected the Apple SSD upgrade were to be expensive, those upgrade price levels are simply ridiculous. The DRAM too but at least I could upgrade that myself to 64GB.
robertAngst 8y ago
> considering that you get a Mac ecosystem People consider this a good thing? EDIT: To clarify, the cost of their proprietary devices mean spending an additional bit. Every other company uses USB C now.
- apazzolini 8y ago
  Yeah, turns out OS X is popular. Who knew?
- wlesieutre 8y ago
  I have a Windows 10 computer for gaming and oh my god am I glad I don't have to use that for anything productive. But hey, at least it's the year of desktop linux!
  - robertAngst 8y ago
    As an aside- I do not like desktop linux or anyone that defends this awful status quo. Its desktop, the user should not have to type anything ever ever ever. The community is toxic and harmful to the future of linux by telling everyone that terminal for the average user is okay. I love my ubuntu server, its the greatest thing I've ever used. No problems ever.
  - PascLeRasc 8y ago
    With Steam Proton you could call this the year of desktop linux gaming!
  - softawre 8y ago
    Desktop linux is actually coming now, who'da thunk it would be as a trojan horse riding in via Windows.
krisroadruck 8y ago
Reasonably priced because SSD? You know a 1TB NVME PCIe M.2 drive can be had for under $250 right? How Apple justifies $800 for this single part is beyond baffling. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN217QG/?coliid=I2D5ZX13M1AMZ7&colid=X13YWB9ZYVXR&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN217QG/?coliid=I2D5ZX13M1AMZ7&...
- graedus 8y ago
  Yeah, and that's one of the best consumer models available! I believe the WD Black 1TB is in the same league for performance and price as well.
pmontra 8y ago
I bought a 1 TB Samsung EVO 860 one month ago for a little more than 170 Euro. The SSD could be a huge chunk of the manufacturing cost but that means that Apple enjoys a huge margin on this computer.
cweiss 8y ago
TBH - Do you even need 1TB of storage on your desktop? If your image/music library is that large, you'd have it on a NAS. Maybe if you've got a big batch of VMs for some reason...

A huge chunk of that is the SSD. It's actually very reasonably priced, especially considering that you get a Mac ecosystem along with the computer.

by sgt 8y ago

A huge chunk of that is the SSD. It's actually very reasonably priced, especially considering that you get a Mac ecosystem along with the computer.

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

Have you looked at SSD prices lately!?

falcolas 8y ago
I'm with you. A very high end 1TB M2 SSD card can be had for under $400, with good SSD cards being under $200.
- wlesieutre 8y ago
  The pretty-high-end 1TB Samsung 970 EVO has dropped as low as $228 recently from multiple vendors. https://slickdeals.net/f/12192367-1tb-samsung-970-evo-nvme-m-2-internal-solid-state-drive-228-free-shipping https://slickdeals.net/f/12192367-1tb-samsung-970-evo-nvme-m... If you really need the very-high-end, then yeah, the 970 PRO is just shy of $400. For cheaper stuff, ADATA's 960GB was recently down around $180. SSD prices have really dropped the last few months.

ksec 8y ago

The price for those SSD upgrade are more than double of the current Retail Pro Level SSD at same capacity and similar speed. Which Apple saves on SSD Controller, better NAND pricing, no retail and distributor margin. Even though I expected the Apple SSD upgrade were to be expensive, those upgrade price levels are simply ridiculous. The DRAM too but at least I could upgrade that myself to 64GB.

robertAngst 8y ago

> considering that you get a Mac ecosystem People consider this a good thing? EDIT: To clarify, the cost of their proprietary devices mean spending an additional bit. Every other company uses USB C now.

apazzolini 8y ago
Yeah, turns out OS X is popular. Who knew?
wlesieutre 8y ago
I have a Windows 10 computer for gaming and oh my god am I glad I don't have to use that for anything productive. But hey, at least it's the year of desktop linux!
- robertAngst 8y ago
  As an aside- I do not like desktop linux or anyone that defends this awful status quo. Its desktop, the user should not have to type anything ever ever ever. The community is toxic and harmful to the future of linux by telling everyone that terminal for the average user is okay. I love my ubuntu server, its the greatest thing I've ever used. No problems ever.
- PascLeRasc 8y ago
  With Steam Proton you could call this the year of desktop linux gaming!
- softawre 8y ago
  Desktop linux is actually coming now, who'da thunk it would be as a trojan horse riding in via Windows.

krisroadruck 8y ago

Reasonably priced because SSD? You know a 1TB NVME PCIe M.2 drive can be had for under $250 right? How Apple justifies $800 for this single part is beyond baffling. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN217QG/?coliid=I2D5ZX13M1AMZ7&colid=X13YWB9ZYVXR&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN217QG/?coliid=I2D5ZX13M1AMZ7&...

graedus 8y ago
Yeah, and that's one of the best consumer models available! I believe the WD Black 1TB is in the same league for performance and price as well.

pmontra 8y ago

I bought a 1 TB Samsung EVO 860 one month ago for a little more than 170 Euro. The SSD could be a huge chunk of the manufacturing cost but that means that Apple enjoys a huge margin on this computer.

cweiss 8y ago

TBH - Do you even need 1TB of storage on your desktop? If your image/music library is that large, you'd have it on a NAS. Maybe if you've got a big batch of VMs for some reason...