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If I’m being completely honest I just see 33 reasons why I still use JetBrains IDEs. Every single one of these features is baked in with the exception of the te

If I’m being completely honest I just see 33 reasons why I still use JetBrains IDEs. Every single one of these features is baked in with the exception of the templates for directory creation which isn’t user configurable most of the time however in the few cases it isn’t baked in they also have a rich plugin ecosystem Still worthy the money every time. I have to say though VS Code is still one of the best free editors you can get None the less. Mad props! I think it’s great that they have a rich extension ecosystem

hartator 8y ago
You have a way to auto-create changelogs in JetBrains?
- makepanic 8y ago
  If one uses a specification for defining changes, then you can easily generate changelogs regardless of IDE/editors. e.g. https://www.conventionalcommits.org/en/v1.0.0-beta.2/ https://www.conventionalcommits.org/en/v1.0.0-beta.2/ has implementations[1] that generate changelogs and bump package versions. [1] - https://github.com/conventional-changelog/standard-version https://github.com/conventional-changelog/standard-version
Bishonen88 8y ago
Do you know if there's a plugin for the 'bump' thing, as described in the article?
markmark 8y ago
Some would argue VSCode can be lighter because these 33 things aren't baked in for those who don't want them.
- Bishonen88 8y ago
  You can disable most of the plugins in the jetbrain suite, too.
  - isakkeyten 8y ago
    Practice has shown that it's easier to add things than to remove them.
  - SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
    Also not being Electron apps they're probably more lightweight anyway despite the extra features.
    - vvillena 8y ago
      But they are Java apps. I use IntelliJ daily (for Scala development) and I'm happy with it, but it doesn't feel lightweight or snappy.
    - mariusmg 8y ago
      >they're probably more lightweight anyway Jetbrains IDEs and lightweight in the same sentence. Notepad++ and Sublime Text are lightweight, Jetbrains IDEs are not...
    - redhale 8y ago
      I literally laughed out loud sitting here at my desk. JetBrains IDEs are many things, but "lightweight" is not one of them. Electron does not have a monopoly on bloat.
    - milesokeefe 8y ago
      IntelliJ IDEA is easily the worst performing application I use. I only use it because of the top class Kotlin support (figures, given JetBrains created it). I end up regularly toggling Power Save mode on and off to reduce how much my CPU gets blown up. That mode turns off code suggestion, auto-imports, and error detection among other pretty core things.
- Aaargh20318 8y ago
  It could have been if it was a real (native) app.
windwake12 8y ago
Having it built in seems just as likely to be a "bad thing", since that version is "baked" in, there's no alternatives. That's why the extension approach by VS code is so surpreme. I'm sure JetBrains would love to have a similar ecosystem.
- spdionis 8y ago
  JetBrains definitely doesn't want a similar ecosystem and having things that work properly 100% of the time baked in is why people use the IDEs.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  JetBrains IDEs have a fairly healthy extension ecosystem in my experience.
zimablue 8y ago
If we're being political I see 33 extensions that could have been written for a platform that was created to be more extensible (Atom, Emacs) rather than one which is distributed with spyware and is far less extensible.
- Natela 8y ago
  VSCode is not Open Source and is spyware too : https://code.visualstudio.com/License/ https://code.visualstudio.com/License/. It's only open source if you build it yourself from Github
fabiospampinato 8y ago
I'd be very surprised if every single feature provided by those extensions is integrated in JetBrains to be honest, if it is I might have picked the wrong editor! I'll definitely look into that, thank you.
- no_wizard 8y ago
  They really are, I know I may have exaggerated mildly perhaps as I know a couple of these features aren’t without a jetbrains plugin however I’d say 27 of them are for sure.

hartator 8y ago

You have a way to auto-create changelogs in JetBrains?

makepanic 8y ago
If one uses a specification for defining changes, then you can easily generate changelogs regardless of IDE/editors. e.g. https://www.conventionalcommits.org/en/v1.0.0-beta.2/ https://www.conventionalcommits.org/en/v1.0.0-beta.2/ has implementations[1] that generate changelogs and bump package versions. [1] - https://github.com/conventional-changelog/standard-version https://github.com/conventional-changelog/standard-version

Bishonen88 8y ago

Do you know if there's a plugin for the 'bump' thing, as described in the article?

markmark 8y ago

Some would argue VSCode can be lighter because these 33 things aren't baked in for those who don't want them.

Bishonen88 8y ago
You can disable most of the plugins in the jetbrain suite, too.
- isakkeyten 8y ago
  Practice has shown that it's easier to add things than to remove them.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  Also not being Electron apps they're probably more lightweight anyway despite the extra features.
  - vvillena 8y ago
    But they are Java apps. I use IntelliJ daily (for Scala development) and I'm happy with it, but it doesn't feel lightweight or snappy.
  - mariusmg 8y ago
    >they're probably more lightweight anyway Jetbrains IDEs and lightweight in the same sentence. Notepad++ and Sublime Text are lightweight, Jetbrains IDEs are not...
  - redhale 8y ago
    I literally laughed out loud sitting here at my desk. JetBrains IDEs are many things, but "lightweight" is not one of them. Electron does not have a monopoly on bloat.
  - milesokeefe 8y ago
    IntelliJ IDEA is easily the worst performing application I use. I only use it because of the top class Kotlin support (figures, given JetBrains created it). I end up regularly toggling Power Save mode on and off to reduce how much my CPU gets blown up. That mode turns off code suggestion, auto-imports, and error detection among other pretty core things.
Aaargh20318 8y ago
It could have been if it was a real (native) app.

windwake12 8y ago

Having it built in seems just as likely to be a "bad thing", since that version is "baked" in, there's no alternatives. That's why the extension approach by VS code is so surpreme. I'm sure JetBrains would love to have a similar ecosystem.

spdionis 8y ago
JetBrains definitely doesn't want a similar ecosystem and having things that work properly 100% of the time baked in is why people use the IDEs.
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
JetBrains IDEs have a fairly healthy extension ecosystem in my experience.

zimablue 8y ago

If we're being political I see 33 extensions that could have been written for a platform that was created to be more extensible (Atom, Emacs) rather than one which is distributed with spyware and is far less extensible.

Natela 8y ago
VSCode is not Open Source and is spyware too : https://code.visualstudio.com/License/ https://code.visualstudio.com/License/. It's only open source if you build it yourself from Github

fabiospampinato 8y ago

I'd be very surprised if every single feature provided by those extensions is integrated in JetBrains to be honest, if it is I might have picked the wrong editor! I'll definitely look into that, thank you.

no_wizard 8y ago
They really are, I know I may have exaggerated mildly perhaps as I know a couple of these features aren’t without a jetbrains plugin however I’d say 27 of them are for sure.