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this is insanely tone-deaf. they're moving existing employees there. People don't want to live in the middle of nowhere. People don't want to be moved without
by zemo 8y ago
this is insanely tone-deaf.
they're moving existing employees there. People don't want to live in the middle of nowhere. People don't want to be moved without their consent to start a new society.
This is painfully, ridiculously obvious if you stop thinking about people as numbers and start thinking about them as actual humans living full lives.
- wpietri 8y agoPeople don't want to be moved without their consent, period. It doesn't matter where the new office is. There are plenty of people who do want to live in the middle of nowhere. I know a number of techies who have taken advantage of remote opportunities to finally live where they want, and at a much better price. And one could reasonably describe the whole trend of suburbanization as people moving to the middle of nowhere, so I suspect Amazon could find plenty of people who'd like a reasonably priced, new-built home in an up-and-coming area.
- tjr225 8y agoThere are plenty of people who want to do basically anything you can imagine. Statistically, we are as a society, drifting closer to urban cores. I too dream of buying 50 acres in the midwest for about 100k or so - so don't get me wrong I get the appeal. It's just more or less not what is happening. > And one could reasonably describe the whole trend of suburbanization as people moving to the middle of nowhere, I disagree with this. Suburbanization is a way for people to live close to urban centers with the employment prospects (although with a commute, contributing to congestion, emissions), without the benefits (and negatives) of living in an urban core. I have never been to a suburb that is in the middle of nowhere...if it was it wouldn't be sub-urban.
- umanwizard 8y agoA lot of the Southwest directly contradicts your point: huge, almost endless tracts of suburbia with no urban core whatsoever. Phoenix (4.7MM people in the metro area, virtually no downtown) is the quintessential example.
- tjr225 8y agoI've never really been to the Southwest so that would be something I haven't experienced. It sounds a lot different than the suburbia I am accustomed to in other parts of the country.
- umanwizard 8y agoFor what it’s worth there are plenty of jobs in Phoenix. They’re just dispersed throughout the giant mass of suburbs rather than being located “downtown”.
- unethical_ban 8y agoNote the part where I said I wasn't that naive, but someone can dream. Are you really telling me I'm the one thinking of people as numbers, not Amazon? My employer is planning on moving several hundred people about ten miles from their current location. The only reason aren't quitting is because there isn't enough competition in the tech sector this city. It would just be nice if there were cities with livable housing costs AND a competitive tech sector.
- briandear 8y agoThose poor, horribly abused humans living in fly-over country. How do they survive? It’s incredibly insulting to suggest that somewhere other than the coasts is the middle of nowhere.
- zemo 8y agothe poster suggested Amazon -start a city-. If they're starting a new city, isn't that by definition nowhere?
- unethical_ban 8y agoout of a pliable town. Find a small-medium city with room to grow and decent wages, stable natural resources, and build on it.