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Airbnb is suing NY right now because the city wants the names and addresses of those who are illegally renting without registering their apartments. I believe i

Airbnb is suing NY right now because the city wants the names and addresses of those who are illegally renting without registering their apartments. I believe it's called "disruption"

seattle_spring 8y ago
So you also support Facebook giving up names and addresses to law enforcement?
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- ppeetteerr 8y ago
  If it's the names and addresses of advertisers who have been found to violate laws, yes
- iaw 8y ago
  When does Facebook not do that?
- sonnyblarney 8y ago
  This is a little different. Law Enforcement want data from Facebook because it's useful to an investigation. Law Enforcement want data from AirBnB because the act of working with AirBnb is the illegal part. So asking a drug dealer for the name of his distributors seems reasonable to me. Or asking the illegal online betting company the names of those who were placing illegal bets. Though the regulations should hopefully be more clear on this.
  - l4yao 8y ago
    Airbnb isn't banned in New York, it can be operated legally. The city is asking for a full list of all operators, including hosts abiding by regulation. If continuing the (poor) Facebook analogy, this is akin to asking for a full list of their users, even the ones abiding by the law.
    - lern_too_spel 8y ago
      The city already has the names and addresses of the law abiding ones. They registered with the city.
- rjbwork 8y ago
  "Of course, I haven't done anything wrong, why do I have anything to hide."
- aikah 8y ago
  > So you also support Facebook giving up names and addresses to law enforcement? What aboutism of the worst kind. This isn't "law enforcement", this is the justice system. And yes,if a judge legally approves such subpoena then corporations need to follow the law. If you don't like the law then change it through democratic means. Neither Facebook nor Airbnb are above the law. The era of "disruption" where anything went because "we're just an app" is over.

Airbnb is suing NY right now because the city wants the names and addresses of those who are illegally renting without registering their apartments. I believe it's called "disruption"

seattle_spring 8y ago

So you also support Facebook giving up names and addresses to law enforcement?

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ppeetteerr 8y ago
If it's the names and addresses of advertisers who have been found to violate laws, yes
iaw 8y ago
When does Facebook not do that?
sonnyblarney 8y ago
This is a little different. Law Enforcement want data from Facebook because it's useful to an investigation. Law Enforcement want data from AirBnB because the act of working with AirBnb is the illegal part. So asking a drug dealer for the name of his distributors seems reasonable to me. Or asking the illegal online betting company the names of those who were placing illegal bets. Though the regulations should hopefully be more clear on this.
- l4yao 8y ago
  Airbnb isn't banned in New York, it can be operated legally. The city is asking for a full list of all operators, including hosts abiding by regulation. If continuing the (poor) Facebook analogy, this is akin to asking for a full list of their users, even the ones abiding by the law.
  - lern_too_spel 8y ago
    The city already has the names and addresses of the law abiding ones. They registered with the city.
rjbwork 8y ago
"Of course, I haven't done anything wrong, why do I have anything to hide."
aikah 8y ago
> So you also support Facebook giving up names and addresses to law enforcement? What aboutism of the worst kind. This isn't "law enforcement", this is the justice system. And yes,if a judge legally approves such subpoena then corporations need to follow the law. If you don't like the law then change it through democratic means. Neither Facebook nor Airbnb are above the law. The era of "disruption" where anything went because "we're just an app" is over.