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Isn't zoning one of the contributing factors to the housing crisis? The problem AFAIK with airbnb is that it takes supply from the residential side, and people
by pertymcpert 8y ago
Isn't zoning one of the contributing factors to the housing crisis?
The problem AFAIK with airbnb is that it takes supply from the residential side, and people using the properties for living in the area should be prioritized over visitors who should book hotels.
- bcheung 8y agoWhy should they be prioritized? That seems rather subjective and dependent on who you are. An argument could be made that it takes supply from the short term side and artificially drives up the cost of hotels. Why not let supply / demand decide?
- pertymcpert 8y agoBecause people's day to day ability to live in shelter is more important than tourists.
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- kofejnik 8y agois more important to whom? do you mean that tourists are non-people?
- pertymcpert 8y agoTourism for the tourist is a luxury, shelter for the resident is a necessity. If you’ve been homeless you would probably agree not having a home is quite a bit worse than having to pay more for a hotel when on holiday.
- ihm 8y ago“Letting supply and demand decide” means deciding to give the housing to whoever will pay the most: which group do you think will pay more, the entire world of tourists who want to visit SF on vacation or people who live here? Which of these groups do you think it is more important to serve?
- lurquer 8y agoBeen to Venice? But for a sliver of the northern side, I got the impression nobody lived there but tourists.
- bcheung 8y agoI think it varies. There are a large class of landlords that will favor longer term tenants because it is lower risk / less hassle. There are also many cases where renting long term is more profitable as well if the home can't be booked consistently. There has always been a "volume discount" incentive for business owners. I would say there is economic incentive for both interests. I don't claim to have the right to assert my opinion on other renters and landlords. I don't think others should either. Who I think is more important is none of my business. That's between the renter and the landlord IMO. Markets, based on supply and demand, have a natural tendency to find balance between the interests of multiple parties.
- kofejnik 8y ago> Which of these groups do you think it is more important I dunno, let the market decide? From your question, it seems like you claim to have a self-evident answer, why?
- pertymcpert 8y agoWhy is the market any better? Our reasoning is based on the needs of human life, not who has more money.
- kofejnik 8y agoCommunists in Soviet Russia thought this, too. How do you know your reasoning is sound?
- pertymcpert 8y agoBecause we’re optimizing for the least human suffering.
- traek 8y agoBecause tourists tend to impose negative externalities upon the city (like getting drunk and throwing up in the streets), and long-term residents tend to impose positive externalities (like planting flowerboxes at their windows). Also because residents pay for public services via taxes, and tourists staying in illegal Airbnbs don't even pay hotel taxes. Also because residents, not tourists, vote.
- baddox 8y agoI think the government has a legitimate role in maintaining order in the streets. I don't think the government has any legitimate role in influencing the number of flowerboxes in windows.
- kofejnik 8y ago>Because tourists tend to impose negative externalities upon the city Seriously? Cities love tourists, they contribute a lot of $$$ to the economy
- pertymcpert 8y agoA lot? Depends on the city.
- torgian 8y agoHow is renting it out with Airbnb different from an owner just holding onto the property and not living in it? If anything, cities should encourage property owners to rent out spare rooms or empty apartments to tourists to bring in that spending money.
- jackvalentine 8y ago> How is renting it out with Airbnb different from an owner just holding onto the property and not living in it? How do you think it's different?
- pertymcpert 8y agoBecause by banning AirBnB short rentals, the rooms and entire properties will then be more likely used to house permanent residents. Owners will be financially incentivized to provide it for the residential rental market, or to sell it, versus not doing anything with it and paying the property taxes.