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Chrome 71 will block any and all ads on sites with “abusive experiences”
- retox 8y agoGoogle's hostile takeover of the web continues unabated.
- Forge36 8y agoAdvocating for the user and serving self interests aren't always at odds. Can you propose an alternative?
- kstrauser 8y agoEh, I'm all for this one. I don't use Chrome (I prefer Safari on my Mac), but I think it's a reasonable response to increasingly terrible, malware-spewing ads.
- dagenix 8y agoI'd love to hear how blocking the ads that meet Google's definition of abusive (linked by Yver: https://support.google.com/webtools/answer/7347327 https://support.google.com/webtools/answer/7347327) is a takeover of the web. In my experience, these are basically 100% scams / malware. Please specifically address that point and not bring up unrelated theories.
- graphememes 8y agoChrome 88 will require you to do three "I am not a robot" verifications every time you visit a site.
- gruez 8y ago...unless you are signed into a Google account and have history sync enabled
- graphememes 8y agoChrome 90 now saves incognito history to google servers, the config option to disable this has been removed.
- benologist 8y agoThis tradeoff was definitely worth preventing bots from using Google Search, something that affects us all deeply on so many levels.
- sfilargi 8y agoOnly if you don’t have sufficient Google Points(TM)
- skybrian 8y agoHere is Google's announcement: https://blog.chromium.org/2018/11/further-protections-from-harmful-ad.html https://blog.chromium.org/2018/11/further-protections-from-h...
- julienreszka 8y agoGood. The layman isn't capable of seeing the difference between fake error messages and real ones.
- Forge36 8y agoThat's being generous: if I'm tired I may not notice an error message is fake. The typical tell I look for: is this window right for my OS? (Windows dialog on Android) Is the version right? (XP styled dialog) Can I tell which window it can from? (Move browser to sanity check where I am)
- craftyguy 8y agoI run a tiling WM full-time, so it's rather hilarious when I see any dialog error/warning box since literally nothing I run generates them. A virus on my C: drive, you say? Nope.
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- skybrian 8y agoThere was a Chrome ad blocker that got a lot of press back in February and then apparently disappeared. What happened to that? Is this the same code?
- Chazprime 8y agoGoogle has a conflict of interest here given that they sell advertising themselves, so a single company policing ads is definitely suspect. I’d prefer to see decisions like these made by a group of interested parties/companies rather than Google alone.
- AdamSC1 8y agoAmong other features DuckDuckGo's extension blocks third-party trackers on a website (duckduckgo.com/app) and gives each site a privacy grade. Unlike other vendors, there is no pay-to-play option. We aim to take a principled rules based approach to blocking and raising the standard of trust online. (Disclaimer: DDG employee)
- craftyguy 8y ago> and gives each site a privacy grade. What's this based on? I'm more included to use Privacy Badger (from the EFF), why should I use the DDG extension instead?
- balibebas 8y agoI'm using DDG Browser to weeks after recently giving up on Brave. The DDG browser is nice and all but not as well designed as FOSS Browser (available on F-Droid). Thanks for offering a popular alternative though.
- ahalam 8y agoWhy did you give up on Brave? I find Brave a good option on Android with all the privacy options built in. What am I missing?
- nitwit005 8y agoWhile it's certainly ideal if everything is consensus driven, I have difficulty seeing that working here. Presumably the people serving these intrusive ads would disagree with any decision to get rid of them.
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- sys_64738 8y agoAnybody else using Vivaldi?
- kbd 8y agoWhat I'd really like is an option to auto-decline all requests to allow desktop notifications.
- twiceaday 8y agoCan't you just set them to blocked under "chrome://settings/content/notifications"?
- kbd 8y agoSorry for not responding forever... I thought doing that would block all, while I'd still like to allow some from apps I use like Gmail and Google Calendar. Just tested with Calendar, and it turns out the allow list still allows even if set to blocked! Thanks for letting me know about the setting, I've set it to blocked.
- King-Aaron 8y agoI see this as a thinly-veiled "any ads that aren't run through Google Ads Network will be blocked"
- andybak 8y agoSurely fairly thickly veiled? Any grounds to believe that?
- StanislavPetrov 8y ago>Any grounds to believe that? Knowledge of history? The ability to think critically?
- andybak 8y agoWell. I'm obviously of the opinion that it's me doing the critical thinking here. But your absolute certainty is most definitely intoxicating.
- King-Aaron 8y ago> Any grounds to believe that? That be how monopolies do
- dagenix 8y agoYou can see it that way if you choose. But: 1) No one on this thread has tried to defend the classes of ads Google is targeting here. 2) No one has presenting evidence of Google unfairly blocking competitors ads. Can you provide concrete examples of either of those things? It's unreasonable to attack Google for something they are doing, because of something else they _could_ do, but provide absolutely no evidence that they will.
- King-Aaron 8y agohttps://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2018/02/22/is-googles-chrome-browser-ad-blocking-anticompetitive/#6d894f765cb6 https://www.forbes.com/sites/fredcampbell/2018/02/22/is-goog... Apologies for being slightly pessimistic about the potential agenda of the largest marketing organization in the world.
- dude3 8y agoThe suspicious thing is the full block. The right thing to do would be to alert the user and let them decide.
- dagenix 8y agoMany users aren't going to be equipped to make a good decision when presented with that alert. Just explaining what the alert is saying is probably going to involve more text that most people are going to read. Doing a full block isn't suspicious - it's a perfectly reasonable default.
- Yver 8y agoGoogle's Web Tools Help's definition of what constitutes an "Abusive experience": https://support.google.com/webtools/answer/7347327 https://support.google.com/webtools/answer/7347327
- dagenix 8y agoWe all know the types of ads that Google is saying they are going to block here - and good riddance. I really wish I knew of some study - but, my personal theory is that roughly 100% of those ads are trying to sell some scam or download some virus. It's really hard to imagine a legitimate company that sends users ads with fake close buttons, pop ups, redirects, fake mouse pointers, etc and after the user trudges through all of that they end up at a page advertising 10% of garden shears at the local hardware store. Yes - Google sells ads. Yes - Google, apparently, now blocks ads. Yes - that sounds troubling. And it sure will be troubling is if it turns out that they are blocking legitimate Ad Words competitors. But, these aren't really ads by any reasonable definition: these are overwhelmingly anti-user malware scam garbage. In my opinion, it's pretty troubling if a super profitable company like Google has the ability to make such a user-positive change and _doesn't_ do so. Maybe its step 1 down a slippery slope to actual bad behavior. But, let's get worked up about that when there is some actual evidence of bad behavior - it's not like there won't be plenty of people interested in trying to keep tabs on what Google is doing here.
- balibebas 8y agoMost of that is conjecture. What they choose to block is not a browser responsibility but one of the search engine results page. When they block new tech threatening their business model it'll be months if not years before anyone "gets it".
- dagenix 8y agoI fully admitted I don't have proof of my theory that the vast majority of ads that meet Google's definition are scams / malware. Do you have any examples or even anecdotal experience with ads with fake mice, misleading click targets, fake close buttons, auto-redirects, etc that turned out to be legit? I very much do not. Why isn't it a reasonable thing for a browser to do? I do a search and get some results. I click on site A. site A has a link to site B. I click on this link. Site B is full of ads that meet Google definition of an abusive ad. I'd appreciate my browser blocking those ads on site B even though I didn't get there via a search page.
- bscphil 8y ago