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Zen monks usually don't share ideas. They try to share experiences, about certain possibilities of the human mind, and how they feel. But those are weird, com
by petra 8y ago
Zen monks usually don't share ideas.
They try to share experiences, about certain possibilities of the human mind, and how they feel.
But those are weird, complex, possibly frightening, and they are also sometimes mis-communicated[1]. Also - they challenge deeply held personal beliefs.
So it's natural that people will resist.
[1]The nature of enlightenment was always hard to explain. Until you listen to Gary Weber(http://happiness-beyond-thought.com/ http://happiness-beyond-thought.com/):
He explains it simply - you know that internal voice, that's always focused about "I"? and always remembering the past and making-plans/dreaming about the future ?
Think about a time you'd had less of that ? so it's possible to make this voice disappear.
And than - you think when you want to think, when you need ideas they sometimes pop into you head, like regular creativity , but most of the time - peace.
- ripsawridge 8y agoYes, good point. The enlightenment experience can't be explained in tidy bullet points. It doesn't even seem interesting to most people. You can't help but use paradox in your words, and then folks even get offended. I admit that we may just be at a dead end with our current consciousnesses in the mass. Some individuals find a way "through," but on the whole most of us will be happy denying most of reality and we'll burn out because of that (resource depletion). I guess it just chaps my hide to see somebody who is a "professional knower" about this stuff being smug and on top of the world when he obfuscates far more than he explains. I'll hit the hay :).
- petra 8y agoI agree that enlightening isn't interesting for most. It But Even if the Enlightenment experience was interesting to most people, i get the feeling it would be too hard, out of reach for most. But the research about it seems to be advancing nicely(Gary weber is a good starting source for that too), and the problem of the extreme cost of the relevant tool for training/research - the fmri - may be soon solved by a startup, openwatr. So maybe this could still be a part of the solution to the resource depletion problem.