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Even if you exclude Office 365, etc there your statement that AWS has 80-90% penetration is absolutely false. AWS has about ~45% of the market, Azure, GCS, IBM

Even if you exclude Office 365, etc there your statement that AWS has 80-90% penetration is absolutely false. AWS has about ~45% of the market, Azure, GCS, IBM and Rackspace round out the top 5. Amazon & Google also both include their Office Suites in their Cloud numbers...so, it's not "a joke." Everyone does it. No one denies that for compute AWS is #1, right now.

simonebrunozzi 8y ago
You are blatantly wrong. Man, I've been in this industry for a long time, and I met literally thousands of cloud computing customers, from startups to large corporations. The current state of affairs is that AWS still dominates. Your claim of 45% shows that you are simply repeating what some myopic analyst has written. Talk to industry experts, and you'll see why I'm right.
- NicoJuicy 8y ago
  In Belgium, I see way more roles for Azure than for AWS. Perhaps some bias for both of us, speaking to industry experts aren't numbers
- orf 8y ago
  You met customers from every geographic region, or just the USA?
- partiallypro 8y ago
  Your anecdotes mean nothing, there are plenty of people gathering data and market share numbers out there. Also, you're on HackerNews and you honestly think you're the only person on here that has dealt with a lot of cloud customers and vendors? C'mon. Anyhow, data > anyone's anecdotes.
- amf12 8y ago
  > The current state of affairs is that AWS still dominates. Nobody is saying otherwise. > Your claim of 45% shows that you are simply repeating what some myopic analyst has written. Talk to industry experts, and you'll see why I'm right. This is anecdotal. Provide some verifiable source. Does AWS not report their WorkDocs (which nobody uses, and hence less revenue) and similar revenue in their AWS revenue? Does GCP not include G-Suite revenue in their Cloud revenue? I don't see what 'game' is Microsoft playing? Are they saying they are the #1 cloud provider because of their revenue? No. This report is not a dick measuring contest to find the best and the biggest cloud provider. This is for Microsoft to showcase to investors why they should invest in Microsoft.
sharemywin 8y ago
This show's Amazon at about 51% in 2017. And Q2 2018 at 35% https://www.geekwire.com/2018/state-cloud-amazon-web-services-bigger-four-major-competitors-combined/ https://www.geekwire.com/2018/state-cloud-amazon-web-service...
- partiallypro 8y ago
  It fluctuates a lot, the last number I saw from Gartner pegged them around 45%, but it could be less or more at this point. The whole space is growing.

simonebrunozzi 8y ago

You are blatantly wrong. Man, I've been in this industry for a long time, and I met literally thousands of cloud computing customers, from startups to large corporations. The current state of affairs is that AWS still dominates. Your claim of 45% shows that you are simply repeating what some myopic analyst has written. Talk to industry experts, and you'll see why I'm right.

NicoJuicy 8y ago
In Belgium, I see way more roles for Azure than for AWS. Perhaps some bias for both of us, speaking to industry experts aren't numbers
orf 8y ago
You met customers from every geographic region, or just the USA?
partiallypro 8y ago
Your anecdotes mean nothing, there are plenty of people gathering data and market share numbers out there. Also, you're on HackerNews and you honestly think you're the only person on here that has dealt with a lot of cloud customers and vendors? C'mon. Anyhow, data > anyone's anecdotes.
amf12 8y ago
> The current state of affairs is that AWS still dominates. Nobody is saying otherwise. > Your claim of 45% shows that you are simply repeating what some myopic analyst has written. Talk to industry experts, and you'll see why I'm right. This is anecdotal. Provide some verifiable source. Does AWS not report their WorkDocs (which nobody uses, and hence less revenue) and similar revenue in their AWS revenue? Does GCP not include G-Suite revenue in their Cloud revenue? I don't see what 'game' is Microsoft playing? Are they saying they are the #1 cloud provider because of their revenue? No. This report is not a dick measuring contest to find the best and the biggest cloud provider. This is for Microsoft to showcase to investors why they should invest in Microsoft.

sharemywin 8y ago

This show's Amazon at about 51% in 2017. And Q2 2018 at 35% https://www.geekwire.com/2018/state-cloud-amazon-web-services-bigger-four-major-competitors-combined/ https://www.geekwire.com/2018/state-cloud-amazon-web-service...

partiallypro 8y ago
It fluctuates a lot, the last number I saw from Gartner pegged them around 45%, but it could be less or more at this point. The whole space is growing.