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Nadella doesn't know that Windows has ads and spyware-like telemetry? Either he must be using a Mac or Linux, or he's approved these shenanigans himself.
by blub 8y ago
Nadella doesn't know that Windows has ads and spyware-like telemetry?
Either he must be using a Mac or Linux, or he's approved these shenanigans himself.
- naikrovek 8y ago> spyware-like telemetry Gonna need a source on that one. Not the "telemetry" part, the "spyware" part. Edit: Because it's possible now to see all telemetry sent and even delete it from Microsoft's servers. I seriously do not see the harm in usage telemetry...
- lawnchair_larry 8y agoNo it isn’t. Microsoft refuses to disclose what is sent as part of the required “security” level telemetry.
- tinus_hn 8y agoAnd, according to the agreement, they have access to all your documents if they ‘have a good faith believe that doing so is necessary’
- naikrovek 8y agoIf I have an infected file, they can have a copy. I don't mind. Honestly a lot of you must just have piles of questionable stuff you aren't proud of but also somehow can't stop collecting/creating, and you don't want anyone to ever see, because no one else will ever understand or something. Not even my employer, the most risk-averse place I have ever worked, worries about the security telemetry.
- gdfasfklshg4 8y agoEveryone has things they want to keep private. If you disagree I suggest that you film yourself walking down the street naked whilst saying your banking login details. Then post this on YouTube. Don't want to do this? Then you have things you want to be private too.
- vntok 8y agoHow is that action even remotely comparable to MS security telemetry?
- gdfasfklshg4 8y agoHow many people keep backups of photos on their computers? How many of those people have taken nude selfies? How many do banking on their computers?
- naikrovek 8y agoMaking something public and making an infected file available only to Microsoft, if and only if they have a good faith reason to use it to improve their products and services, are WILDLY different.
- Lio 8y agoYou make it sound like you, the user, have a choice in the matter. You're not "making something available" and they're not asking you for permission. They taking it if they want it and you can't do anything about it. I think that's what people object to most, the loss of freedom to say no, this is mine, it's private and I control who has access to it.
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- saiya-jin 8y ago> Not even my employer, the most risk-averse place I have ever worked, worries about the security telemetry. It's easy then - You simply don't work in very risk-averse environment. None of my employers in last 8 years would ever put anything like current Win10 on any computer in the company, precisely because of that.
- naikrovek 8y agoThat's an ignorant statement. You don't know where I work. My current employer is more risk-averse than State Farm, a very large insurance company, whose livelihood requires a strong aversion to risk. I worked there for 3.5 years. I know risk-averse when I see it. Paranoia and risk-aversion are very different things.
- naikrovek 8y agoHaving a "good faith belief" is actually a high bar, legally. I remain unconcerned.
- Svip 8y agoAnd who is going to challenge Microsoft on this in court?
- naikrovek 8y agoYou lot, by the strength of the hatred I'm reading, here.
- tinus_hn 8y agoI am not really concerned Microsoft is downloading files from computers, but I am concerned if they technically have the ability to do so. If it requires an encryption key or some kind of password, these have a tendency to leak. If it is limited to a certain group of people, who's to say none of these people can be persuaded to sell your data? And would it be acceptable if the three-letter agencies can start snooping not only in the cloud but also on your own computer without you knowing?
- naikrovek 8y agoWell fuck I guess they see all my emails to Grandma and they pirate all my unpublished anime fan fiction with the security level telemetry. Good point.
- picsao 8y agoWell I guess if they pirate you developing the next big thing instead of waiting for years to pay for a product or patent that's only karma.
- hunta2097 8y agoTelemetry, I think most people (given a choice) would opt-out but OK. What I hate are all the dark-patterns, registry keys and obscure processes that you have to locate to perform the opt-out (and even don't clearly know they are disabled). I'm a bit sick of fighting the OS that I purchased to make my life easier. Even published Group Policy seems like an arms race, every time a new Windows 10 release there are a crap-ton of new telemetry settings. And why-oh-why does Windows Server have the XBox client installed? Windows is becoming the weakest part of the Microsoft stack.
- picsao 8y agoWenn das der anFührer wüsste...