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Do you see Apple loading up third-party apps into macOS? No? I wonder why. Well, they do load up Google as their default search provider to make an extra $3 bi

Do you see Apple loading up third-party apps into macOS? No? I wonder why. Well, they do load up Google as their default search provider to make an extra $3 billion per year off Apple users. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/google-paying-apple-3-billion-to-remain-default-search--bernstein.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/google-paying-apple-3-billio...

marricks 8y ago
Sure, because search is actually a feature people want. I don’t want one drive or candy crush or telemetry data and all those are harder to turn off then changing search to DuckDuckGo on MacOS or iOS.
- davb 8y ago
  > one drive Mac OS does come with a fairly deep iCloud Drive integration, and iOS defaults to backing up photos and files then tries to upsell to a higher package when space runs out. It's only fairly recently that iOS shipped with a dedicated file manager, instead making you store any documents you have either in individual apps or on iCloud Drive.
  - vetinari 8y ago
    To be fair, macOS asks once about the iCloud, and when told 'No', it respects the user and never asks again, and never puts anything iCloud related into users face.
- megaremote 8y ago
  People? I? Well, yes, people DO in fact want candy crush.
nordsieck 8y ago
> Well, they do load up Google as their default search provider While that's true, a browser pretty much needs a default search engine, and Google is widely regarded as the best. I'm not sure that Apple could make a more customer-centric choice.
- masonic 8y ago
  Really? The worst privacy suck of a search choice for all of their devices is a "customer-centric" choice? They couldn't default to the least intrusive? Or rotate randomly amongst the options?
  - yzmtf2008 8y ago
    No. They couldn't. Rotating randomly is just about the most frustrating thing you can do to a user. Also forcing your users to use an unfamiliar search engine. Remember, we're talking about people that Google "Facebook" to go to Facebook.
    - masonic 8y ago
      You seem to imply that Apple users are less bright than the general population.
satysin 8y ago
Oh come on! Yes Safari includes Google, Bing, Yahoo and DuckDuckGo as built-in search providers. That is not the same thing as bundling Candy Crush Soda in the Dock. Hell Apple don't even include the free iWorks apps such as Pages and Numbers in a clean macOS install you have to go and get them via the Mac App Store.

marricks 8y ago

Sure, because search is actually a feature people want. I don’t want one drive or candy crush or telemetry data and all those are harder to turn off then changing search to DuckDuckGo on MacOS or iOS.

davb 8y ago
> one drive Mac OS does come with a fairly deep iCloud Drive integration, and iOS defaults to backing up photos and files then tries to upsell to a higher package when space runs out. It's only fairly recently that iOS shipped with a dedicated file manager, instead making you store any documents you have either in individual apps or on iCloud Drive.
- vetinari 8y ago
  To be fair, macOS asks once about the iCloud, and when told 'No', it respects the user and never asks again, and never puts anything iCloud related into users face.
megaremote 8y ago
People? I? Well, yes, people DO in fact want candy crush.

nordsieck 8y ago

> Well, they do load up Google as their default search provider While that's true, a browser pretty much needs a default search engine, and Google is widely regarded as the best. I'm not sure that Apple could make a more customer-centric choice.

masonic 8y ago
Really? The worst privacy suck of a search choice for all of their devices is a "customer-centric" choice? They couldn't default to the least intrusive? Or rotate randomly amongst the options?
- yzmtf2008 8y ago
  No. They couldn't. Rotating randomly is just about the most frustrating thing you can do to a user. Also forcing your users to use an unfamiliar search engine. Remember, we're talking about people that Google "Facebook" to go to Facebook.
  - masonic 8y ago
    You seem to imply that Apple users are less bright than the general population.

satysin 8y ago

Oh come on! Yes Safari includes Google, Bing, Yahoo and DuckDuckGo as built-in search providers. That is not the same thing as bundling Candy Crush Soda in the Dock. Hell Apple don't even include the free iWorks apps such as Pages and Numbers in a clean macOS install you have to go and get them via the Mac App Store.