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This sounds absolutely awful. Electron is much slower and running Excel queries in JavaScript sounds like a terrible experience.

fooker 8y ago
Electron is, Wasm isn't. You won't be running it in javascript, it will be compiled just like desktop Excel.
- FridgeSeal 8y ago
  Wasm is a improvement on JS for sure, but proper native compiled still thoroughly beats it.
  - M_Bakhtiari 8y ago
    Why wouldn't WASM implementations do native compilation? It's the norm for most modern language implementations nowadays, anything else would be silly.
    - FridgeSeal 8y ago
      Many languages that compile to native are rolling out WASM support, or have it in their roadmaps, but there are many more architectures and formats that you have to handle in native land. I guess theoretically, if we agreed to support the main desktop and mobile/tablet OS’s and chip architectures, and then got everyone to use a standard compiler and IL format (LLVM maybe?) then you might get some of the way, but that would be a lot of work (cool if it happened though...)
      - beatgammit 8y ago
        The IL format is WASM, it's already here. When the browser gets WASM, it's free to interpret it or compile it to native code. AFAIK, it is already getting compiled to native, and I'm sure we'll see some awesome JITs coming to WASM. The problem right now with warm WASM is lack of features (e.g. you can't do threading), though those are getting sorted.
      - M_Bakhtiari 8y ago
        Targeting multiple architectures is a solved problem, as you said with LLVM. I don't know if that's how WASM is currently implemented, as a LLVM front-end, but I'm pretty sure most implementations in fact are proper native compiled, or they intend to be. As I said it would be silly to do it any other way.
- TheRealDunkirk 8y ago
  So how big is the download the first time, and how big will the (weekly) updates be?

3 ms·

This sounds absolutely awful. Electron is much slower and running Excel queries in JavaScript sounds like a terrible experience.

by techntoke 8y ago

fooker 8y ago
Electron is, Wasm isn't. You won't be running it in javascript, it will be compiled just like desktop Excel.
- FridgeSeal 8y ago
  Wasm is a improvement on JS for sure, but proper native compiled still thoroughly beats it.
  - M_Bakhtiari 8y ago
    Why wouldn't WASM implementations do native compilation? It's the norm for most modern language implementations nowadays, anything else would be silly.
    - FridgeSeal 8y ago
      Many languages that compile to native are rolling out WASM support, or have it in their roadmaps, but there are many more architectures and formats that you have to handle in native land. I guess theoretically, if we agreed to support the main desktop and mobile/tablet OS’s and chip architectures, and then got everyone to use a standard compiler and IL format (LLVM maybe?) then you might get some of the way, but that would be a lot of work (cool if it happened though...)
      - beatgammit 8y ago
        The IL format is WASM, it's already here. When the browser gets WASM, it's free to interpret it or compile it to native code. AFAIK, it is already getting compiled to native, and I'm sure we'll see some awesome JITs coming to WASM. The problem right now with warm WASM is lack of features (e.g. you can't do threading), though those are getting sorted.
      - M_Bakhtiari 8y ago
        Targeting multiple architectures is a solved problem, as you said with LLVM. I don't know if that's how WASM is currently implemented, as a LLVM front-end, but I'm pretty sure most implementations in fact are proper native compiled, or they intend to be. As I said it would be silly to do it any other way.
- TheRealDunkirk 8y ago
  So how big is the download the first time, and how big will the (weekly) updates be?