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The market doesn't really seem to care all that much about it. Windows is practically clean on install compared to any Android phone I've owned. My favorite in

by cwyers 8y ago

The market doesn't really seem to care all that much about it. Windows is practically clean on install compared to any Android phone I've owned. My favorite in terms of pointlessness was my Samsung phone that had both Chrome and a Samsung browser based on Chromium on it, and the Samsung browser was the default. It was worse in every way than just Chrome.

daxfohl 8y ago
Unless it does. Maybe if there was no junk they could command Apple premiums for their devices and get Apple sales numbers.
- cwyers 8y ago
  Can you uninstall Apple Music from iOS devices?
  - 8_hours_ago 8y ago
    Yes. I was able to delete it from my iPhone.
  - deleted 8y ago
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  - Mononokay 8y ago
    Yes. In fact, you can delete almost every preinstalled app on iOS devices.
    - dijit 8y ago
      Wow. I didn’t believe you. But you’re right, I just removed my music app. :o
      - Gaelan 8y ago
        It's fairly recent, iOS 10 or 11.
joosteto 8y ago
Windows is practically clean on install compared to any Android phone I've owned My Nexus Android phones were clean. And yes, Sony etc phones are adware, but so are Sony Windows computers.
blub 8y ago
Deflecting, excusing, irrelevant Samsung discussions... Any large enough company can get away with customer-hostile behaviour without the market correcting it.
SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
It's not really an apples-to-apples comparison though, is it? If you're talking about a clean install of Windows you should be comparing to a Nexus or Pixel. Samsung is more like the eMachines or Packard Bell of the Android world as far as bundled crapware is concerned.
ourmandave 8y ago
Recently got a new Samsung phone from AT&T. I'm not sure which one installed more crapware. My favorite is I have 6 new contacts for AT&T, like "Pay My Bill".
- FireBeyond 8y ago
  And if you get an insurance replacement, they "make" you install their third party "Pro Tech" app, and ask you questions about what's on the home page (of the app) after installed to "verify it installed correctly".
diffeomorphism 8y ago
> My favorite in terms of pointlessness I heavily disagree. The main reason google was fined by the EU was their anti-competitive monopoly abuse, forcing manufacturers to bundle all their apps. While I like chrome, its market dominance in particular on android is worrisome. Since Samsung can not offer another browser instead of chrome, but only in addition, this is the best they can do in this situation. Instead of complaining about "duplication", I applaud them for their efforts.

by cwyers 8y ago

daxfohl 8y ago

Unless it does. Maybe if there was no junk they could command Apple premiums for their devices and get Apple sales numbers.

cwyers 8y ago
Can you uninstall Apple Music from iOS devices?
- 8_hours_ago 8y ago
  Yes. I was able to delete it from my iPhone.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- Mononokay 8y ago
  Yes. In fact, you can delete almost every preinstalled app on iOS devices.
  - dijit 8y ago
    Wow. I didn’t believe you. But you’re right, I just removed my music app. :o
    - Gaelan 8y ago
      It's fairly recent, iOS 10 or 11.

joosteto 8y ago

Windows is practically clean on install compared to any Android phone I've owned My Nexus Android phones were clean. And yes, Sony etc phones are adware, but so are Sony Windows computers.

blub 8y ago

Deflecting, excusing, irrelevant Samsung discussions... Any large enough company can get away with customer-hostile behaviour without the market correcting it.

SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago

It's not really an apples-to-apples comparison though, is it? If you're talking about a clean install of Windows you should be comparing to a Nexus or Pixel. Samsung is more like the eMachines or Packard Bell of the Android world as far as bundled crapware is concerned.

ourmandave 8y ago

Recently got a new Samsung phone from AT&T. I'm not sure which one installed more crapware. My favorite is I have 6 new contacts for AT&T, like "Pay My Bill".

FireBeyond 8y ago
And if you get an insurance replacement, they "make" you install their third party "Pro Tech" app, and ask you questions about what's on the home page (of the app) after installed to "verify it installed correctly".

diffeomorphism 8y ago

> My favorite in terms of pointlessness I heavily disagree. The main reason google was fined by the EU was their anti-competitive monopoly abuse, forcing manufacturers to bundle all their apps. While I like chrome, its market dominance in particular on android is worrisome. Since Samsung can not offer another browser instead of chrome, but only in addition, this is the best they can do in this situation. Instead of complaining about "duplication", I applaud them for their efforts.