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I just looked up the book and the auditory integration training it promotes. Getting a very strong smell of woo from the whole thing. Do you make any money from

I just looked up the book and the auditory integration training it promotes. Getting a very strong smell of woo from the whole thing. Do you make any money from it? >The American Academy of Pediatrics and three other professional organizations consider it an experimental procedure. The New York State Department of Health recommends that it not be used to treat young children with autism.[3] The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has banned the Audiokinetron, the original device used to perform AIT, from importation into the U.S. due to lack of evidence of medical benefit.[1] The American Speech-Language-Hearing Association has concluded that AIT has not met scientific standards for safety. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auditory_integration_training https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auditory_integration_training

loceng 8y ago
No, I don't make money off of it - however I have benefit greatly from it myself, and I saw it greatly benefit others. In my early 20s I had developed a severe hypersensitivity to sound (hyperacusis) after being prescribed a medication. Audiograms that followed showed that I could hear at 0 Dbs across all frequencies, and a later one showed many that I could hear below 0 Dbs, and a few at -14 Dbs (the equipment couldn't check lower than that). The AIT sound therapy undid all of that (and more, however you're not a receptive audience I care to share that with/spend the effort writing it out here to you). Although I appreciate skepticism, your level of research you're presenting is fairly shallow and so I don't really feel like engaging further with you right now. Once again, based on your other arrogant answers, it's not surprising you'd get a "strong smell of woo" from it. The process of knowledge spreading through society takes time, it takes time for things become mainstream. Another example I'll bring up related to knowledge taking time getting to mainstream, with more concrete biological evidence available to reference (as well as concepts already having been in society for a long time) is related to stem cells/regenerative medicine. Stem cells will heal injuries, regenerate tissue. Even though this is the case, assuming an evolved process is used (meaning proper/adequate training etc) my physician absurdly still didn't believe that the impact I had personally to treat pain had healed anything or would be permanent; and that's primarily because he hadn't encountered anyone who had had went for a stem cell treatment before, even though there have been doctors doing it and evolving the process for 18 years now - and from doctors doing it, they have said it likely won't become mainstream for perhaps even 15 more years. Anyway, I'm writing this out more for my benefit since I don't think you'll actually understand the connection I'm trying to make. P.S. The US had stem cell research ban for a long time. Also, that Wiki URL has a surprisingly scarce/limited amount of information on it. Once again, I'll refer you to the book, Hearing Equals Behaviour.
- starbeast 8y ago
  >Although I appreciate skepticism Well, this gave me a laugh at least.
  - loceng 8y ago
    Glad you at least have a sense of humour, even if perhaps your critical thinking is lacking - it's likely you're just not motivated or interested enough in the topic to be able to have a deeper conversation around it, yet still replying as if you're somehow an expert on it or more knowledgable/experienced about it than I am.
    - starbeast 8y ago
      My sense of humour does keep me going. I assume you may have found me to be acerbic so far, given your repetitive comments on what you suppose to be my character. I apologise for this, I just get very prickly around woo, having friends who are now dead because of it. Now you may get upset at me calling this woo. So lets look at the website of the AIT institute (https://www.aitinstitute.org https://www.aitinstitute.org) and see what they claim AIT is a medical treatment for. So, here is their list of things that they say AIT can treat; ADHD, Aggression, Anxiety, APD - Auditory Processing, Apraxia, Aspergers Syndrome, Autism, Brain Injury, Depression, Developmental Delays, Down's Syndrome, Dysgraphia, Dyslexia, Echolalia, Head Banging, Head Injury, Hyperactivity, Hyperacute Hearing, Hyperlexia, Language Disorder, Learning Disabilities, Oppositional Defiance, Pervasive Dev. Delay, Reading Challenges, Sensory Processing, School Behavior, School Performance, Sound Sensitivity, Speech and Language, Speech Delay, Stroke, Stuttering, Tinnitus, Vaccine Injury, and last but not least, the Vestibular System. I must say, that is quite the array. I pointed my bullshit detector at it and the needle fell off. You have said repeatedly on here that I am ill informed, arrogant and ignorant. That is ok, you are fully entitled to that opinion. Especially since I think that you help to tend the horse of Pestilence as a side gig. Now please have a lovely day, and do try to get through it without feeding people any more erroneous nonsense. edit - Been poking through that site a bit more and I just saw the list of links to things they consider related. Is all homeopathy and antivaxx shit. These are dangerous bastards. In all seriousness, please stop promoting them.

loceng 8y ago

No, I don't make money off of it - however I have benefit greatly from it myself, and I saw it greatly benefit others. In my early 20s I had developed a severe hypersensitivity to sound (hyperacusis) after being prescribed a medication. Audiograms that followed showed that I could hear at 0 Dbs across all frequencies, and a later one showed many that I could hear below 0 Dbs, and a few at -14 Dbs (the equipment couldn't check lower than that). The AIT sound therapy undid all of that (and more, however you're not a receptive audience I care to share that with/spend the effort writing it out here to you). Although I appreciate skepticism, your level of research you're presenting is fairly shallow and so I don't really feel like engaging further with you right now. Once again, based on your other arrogant answers, it's not surprising you'd get a "strong smell of woo" from it. The process of knowledge spreading through society takes time, it takes time for things become mainstream. Another example I'll bring up related to knowledge taking time getting to mainstream, with more concrete biological evidence available to reference (as well as concepts already having been in society for a long time) is related to stem cells/regenerative medicine. Stem cells will heal injuries, regenerate tissue. Even though this is the case, assuming an evolved process is used (meaning proper/adequate training etc) my physician absurdly still didn't believe that the impact I had personally to treat pain had healed anything or would be permanent; and that's primarily because he hadn't encountered anyone who had had went for a stem cell treatment before, even though there have been doctors doing it and evolving the process for 18 years now - and from doctors doing it, they have said it likely won't become mainstream for perhaps even 15 more years. Anyway, I'm writing this out more for my benefit since I don't think you'll actually understand the connection I'm trying to make. P.S. The US had stem cell research ban for a long time. Also, that Wiki URL has a surprisingly scarce/limited amount of information on it. Once again, I'll refer you to the book, Hearing Equals Behaviour.

starbeast 8y ago
>Although I appreciate skepticism Well, this gave me a laugh at least.
- loceng 8y ago
  Glad you at least have a sense of humour, even if perhaps your critical thinking is lacking - it's likely you're just not motivated or interested enough in the topic to be able to have a deeper conversation around it, yet still replying as if you're somehow an expert on it or more knowledgable/experienced about it than I am.
  - starbeast 8y ago
    My sense of humour does keep me going. I assume you may have found me to be acerbic so far, given your repetitive comments on what you suppose to be my character. I apologise for this, I just get very prickly around woo, having friends who are now dead because of it. Now you may get upset at me calling this woo. So lets look at the website of the AIT institute (https://www.aitinstitute.org https://www.aitinstitute.org) and see what they claim AIT is a medical treatment for. So, here is their list of things that they say AIT can treat; ADHD, Aggression, Anxiety, APD - Auditory Processing, Apraxia, Aspergers Syndrome, Autism, Brain Injury, Depression, Developmental Delays, Down's Syndrome, Dysgraphia, Dyslexia, Echolalia, Head Banging, Head Injury, Hyperactivity, Hyperacute Hearing, Hyperlexia, Language Disorder, Learning Disabilities, Oppositional Defiance, Pervasive Dev. Delay, Reading Challenges, Sensory Processing, School Behavior, School Performance, Sound Sensitivity, Speech and Language, Speech Delay, Stroke, Stuttering, Tinnitus, Vaccine Injury, and last but not least, the Vestibular System. I must say, that is quite the array. I pointed my bullshit detector at it and the needle fell off. You have said repeatedly on here that I am ill informed, arrogant and ignorant. That is ok, you are fully entitled to that opinion. Especially since I think that you help to tend the horse of Pestilence as a side gig. Now please have a lovely day, and do try to get through it without feeding people any more erroneous nonsense. edit - Been poking through that site a bit more and I just saw the list of links to things they consider related. Is all homeopathy and antivaxx shit. These are dangerous bastards. In all seriousness, please stop promoting them.