> the fact that you don't talk about the non-laboring ruling class, just a spectrum of success of workers, some of whom have earned retirement through their wor

> the fact that you don't talk about the non-laboring ruling class, just a spectrum of success of workers, some of whom have earned retirement through their work. I like to talk about them all the time. ;) Though I think we're seeing eye to eye here. Different groups see "work" in such different ways that I think the terminology of stuff like 'retirement' doesn't transfer well. Some people cannot see a life without work. Others do it for toys. Others do it as a status game. Others don't really do it at all. I guess you could call that the 'leisure class'. A theoretical human who has no need for food - are they fasting?