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Change "heroin" to "cocaine" and you could tell the same story about many stockbrokers, so what's the point?

steve_adams_86 8y ago
Brokers typically have social mobility, and a choice in their type of work. Their sacrifice to make ends meet is incomparable to that of someone selling their body. I'm confused how you can draw a likeness between the two. Perhaps there are moral threads to pull, but I don't think they end up going to the same place.
- AYBABTME 8y ago
  The way you imply that "selling their body" is worse than selling whatever part of themselves a stockbroker sells while doing drugs in order to work, really is kind of part of the problem. You put a moral judgement over which activity is more degrading than another. Consider this: what if people we're entitled to do whatever they want with their body, without having to abide to your standards and morals? How much of other peoples' morality do you want to be subjected to? Beware that others may have wildly different visions on what is degrading and what is not.
  - thomasz 8y ago
    Jesus Christ... It's almost certainly worse subjectively (seriously, how many stockbrokers would describe their line of work as degrading, compared to prostitutes!?) and objectively in terms of massively increased risks in terms of mental and physical health, exposure to sexual violence as well as facing ostracism from family, friends and society as a whole.
- JDiculous 8y ago
  Everybody has a choice in their type of work, nobody is forced to be a prostitute. Yes most prostitutes probably don't enjoy it, but they put up with it because the money is generally many multiples more than whatever they'd make at an office job and the hours are more flexible. If someone feels like they don't have any other job opportunities, then making prostitution illegal certainly won't fix that problem (nor does it eliminate prostitution - prostitution exists everywhere, making it illegal just means a prostitute can't go to the police if a customer takes advantage of her). Policing prostitution is a complete waste of taxpayer money.
  - aikah 8y ago
    i'm not sure on what planet you are living or you think you live. > Everybody has a choice in their type of work, nobody is forced to be a prostitute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit... People are forced into sex work all the time, everywhere on the planet including in rich western countries, by various means,debt, violence,death threats,the "boyfriend" who is a pimp, even "curse" threats, especially young kids, and most johns don't give a damn. Women who refuse to submit to their pimps or the mafia are killed to set an example.
    - JDiculous 8y ago
      Obviously forced child prostitution and trafficking happens, nobody is denying that or defending such a repulsive practice, just like nobody denies or defends slavery or forced labor. If you actually read the comment I was responding to you'd see that we were talking about sex work in general. Why the hell can we not have a real conversation about sex work among consenting adults without somebody conflating it with slavery and child prostitution?

Brokers typically have social mobility, and a choice in their type of work. Their sacrifice to make ends meet is incomparable to that of someone selling their body. I'm confused how you can draw a likeness between the two. Perhaps there are moral threads to pull, but I don't think they end up going to the same place.

AYBABTME 8y ago
The way you imply that "selling their body" is worse than selling whatever part of themselves a stockbroker sells while doing drugs in order to work, really is kind of part of the problem. You put a moral judgement over which activity is more degrading than another. Consider this: what if people we're entitled to do whatever they want with their body, without having to abide to your standards and morals? How much of other peoples' morality do you want to be subjected to? Beware that others may have wildly different visions on what is degrading and what is not.
- thomasz 8y ago
  Jesus Christ... It's almost certainly worse subjectively (seriously, how many stockbrokers would describe their line of work as degrading, compared to prostitutes!?) and objectively in terms of massively increased risks in terms of mental and physical health, exposure to sexual violence as well as facing ostracism from family, friends and society as a whole.
JDiculous 8y ago
Everybody has a choice in their type of work, nobody is forced to be a prostitute. Yes most prostitutes probably don't enjoy it, but they put up with it because the money is generally many multiples more than whatever they'd make at an office job and the hours are more flexible. If someone feels like they don't have any other job opportunities, then making prostitution illegal certainly won't fix that problem (nor does it eliminate prostitution - prostitution exists everywhere, making it illegal just means a prostitute can't go to the police if a customer takes advantage of her). Policing prostitution is a complete waste of taxpayer money.
- aikah 8y ago
  i'm not sure on what planet you are living or you think you live. > Everybody has a choice in their type of work, nobody is forced to be a prostitute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit... People are forced into sex work all the time, everywhere on the planet including in rich western countries, by various means,debt, violence,death threats,the "boyfriend" who is a pimp, even "curse" threats, especially young kids, and most johns don't give a damn. Women who refuse to submit to their pimps or the mafia are killed to set an example.
  - JDiculous 8y ago
    Obviously forced child prostitution and trafficking happens, nobody is denying that or defending such a repulsive practice, just like nobody denies or defends slavery or forced labor. If you actually read the comment I was responding to you'd see that we were talking about sex work in general. Why the hell can we not have a real conversation about sex work among consenting adults without somebody conflating it with slavery and child prostitution?