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> 2. Good transportation Surely, you jest. Yeah, it's on a metro line, but hardly anyone lives near a metro line. That area is consistently rated as the #1 or

> 2. Good transportation Surely, you jest. Yeah, it's on a metro line, but hardly anyone lives near a metro line. That area is consistently rated as the #1 or #2 worst traffic in the country for years.

CalRobert 8y ago
Sounds like good transportation with terrible urban planning.
- CamperBob2 8y ago
  Yes, it's always inconvenient and disillusioning when people refuse to live where "urban planners" think they should live.
  - mikeash 8y ago
    Demand for Metro-convenient housing is enormous. Builders are having trouble keeping up.
  - CalRobert 8y ago
    That would make sense if urban planners were the ones telling people not to live near transit stations, but it's generally existing residents opposing new housing. Though, perhaps to your point, I also am not a fan of almost all planning. The nicest places to live, walk, etc. tend to be ones that arose before planning was widespread. Of course, they existed before the car, too.
totablebanjo 8y ago
What are you talking about that no one lives near a metro line? It’ll be on the same line as Shaw which is one of the most desirable neighborhoods for 20/30 somethings in DC right now.
- tomohawk 8y ago
  Metro serves a tiny fraction of N. VA. Sure, if you're in DC and commuting out, it's probably ok, but people don't tend to stay in DC very long. Once they have kids and realize there is no hope of reasonable public education there, they move.
  - hn_throwaway_99 8y ago
    Your comment about "nobody lives near a metro line" though - I mean, come on! With the orange line and silver line extension there are lots of places in NoVa near the metro. Yes, the car traffic is horrible, but the car traffic is horrible in SF, LA, Boston, NY, Austin... As another commenter pointed out, there is actually a ton of empty real estate in Crystal City itself and no doubt a ton of it will be built up as apartments/condos now.
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empath75 8y ago
Inside the beltway is very different from outside the beltway.

CalRobert 8y ago

Sounds like good transportation with terrible urban planning.

CamperBob2 8y ago
Yes, it's always inconvenient and disillusioning when people refuse to live where "urban planners" think they should live.
- mikeash 8y ago
  Demand for Metro-convenient housing is enormous. Builders are having trouble keeping up.
- CalRobert 8y ago
  That would make sense if urban planners were the ones telling people not to live near transit stations, but it's generally existing residents opposing new housing. Though, perhaps to your point, I also am not a fan of almost all planning. The nicest places to live, walk, etc. tend to be ones that arose before planning was widespread. Of course, they existed before the car, too.

totablebanjo 8y ago

What are you talking about that no one lives near a metro line? It’ll be on the same line as Shaw which is one of the most desirable neighborhoods for 20/30 somethings in DC right now.

tomohawk 8y ago
Metro serves a tiny fraction of N. VA. Sure, if you're in DC and commuting out, it's probably ok, but people don't tend to stay in DC very long. Once they have kids and realize there is no hope of reasonable public education there, they move.
- hn_throwaway_99 8y ago
  Your comment about "nobody lives near a metro line" though - I mean, come on! With the orange line and silver line extension there are lots of places in NoVa near the metro. Yes, the car traffic is horrible, but the car traffic is horrible in SF, LA, Boston, NY, Austin... As another commenter pointed out, there is actually a ton of empty real estate in Crystal City itself and no doubt a ton of it will be built up as apartments/condos now.
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empath75 8y ago

Inside the beltway is very different from outside the beltway.