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strongly agree. i am looking at this laptop: https://system76.com/laptops/galago https://system76.com/laptops/galago it's obvious these guys took their desig

strongly agree. i am looking at this laptop: https://system76.com/laptops/galago https://system76.com/laptops/galago it's obvious these guys took their design cues from apple's laptops, but they've paid about a tenth as much attention to the details as apple would. unnecessary bumps and blemishes, odd discolorations here and there, couldn't be bothered to do anything about that hideous rectangle at the top of the screen where the camera is located, etc. i am contemplating a career move (no more ios development) that would mean i am free to leave apple's ecosystem. if some other company could make laptops as beautiful as apple's, without duplicating the mistakes apple has been making over the last few years, it would really grease the skids for me.

bunderbunder 8y ago
The thing there is, a smaller company can't really afford to build things the way Apple does. The economies of scale just aren't there, so they often have to stick to cheaper ways of doing things.
opencl 8y ago
System76 does not even design any of their laptops, they are all (currently) rebadges of Clevo machines. They do plan on releasing original designs with in house manufacturing at some point.
- camjohnson26 8y ago
  My understanding is they work with Clevo to design new machines and then both companies sell them.
  - HeadsUpHigh 8y ago
    They don't, at least based on their community manager's response to a comment of mine on reddit. They are the biggest clevo client so they get a say on putting linux-friendly parts in the mainboard but that's it. My understanding is that clevo machines are linux friendly mainly because of s76's influence on them.
uep 8y ago
There are excellent laptops that aren't made by Apple. I feel that Apple's advantage there was lost at least a couple years ago. At the top of that list I would probably put the Dell XPS 13 , and it can be bought with Linux. HP (Envy/Spectre) and Lenovo (x1 carbon) have laptops that look to be very high quality, but I don't have personal experience with them and they don't ship Linux.

bunderbunder 8y ago

The thing there is, a smaller company can't really afford to build things the way Apple does. The economies of scale just aren't there, so they often have to stick to cheaper ways of doing things.

opencl 8y ago

System76 does not even design any of their laptops, they are all (currently) rebadges of Clevo machines. They do plan on releasing original designs with in house manufacturing at some point.

camjohnson26 8y ago
My understanding is they work with Clevo to design new machines and then both companies sell them.
- HeadsUpHigh 8y ago
  They don't, at least based on their community manager's response to a comment of mine on reddit. They are the biggest clevo client so they get a say on putting linux-friendly parts in the mainboard but that's it. My understanding is that clevo machines are linux friendly mainly because of s76's influence on them.

uep 8y ago

There are excellent laptops that aren't made by Apple. I feel that Apple's advantage there was lost at least a couple years ago. At the top of that list I would probably put the Dell XPS 13 , and it can be bought with Linux. HP (Envy/Spectre) and Lenovo (x1 carbon) have laptops that look to be very high quality, but I don't have personal experience with them and they don't ship Linux.