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You obviously can't save the jobs in one country and also create those same jobs in another country. The only way for both sides to profit (over the long run)

You obviously can't save the jobs in one country and also create those same jobs in another country. The only way for both sides to profit (over the long run) is for either country to do the job it can do the most efficiently, i.e. comparative advantage. In practice, that's a real tough concept for people to come to terms with. People want to have their cake and eat it too.

xvedejas 8y ago
There are enough non-zero-sum effects in economics that this isn't plainly apparent to me. It seems like quite a claim, really. For instance, I find it plausible that cheap labor from overseas may actually help subsidize the creation of an industry, which might grow enough to need more employees in the US for related work.
- cloakandswagger 8y ago
  It's actually a pretty reasonable and logical claim, supported by 20 years of globalism that gutted American employment.
- Setepenre 8y ago
  What is this ? Rational thoughts on the internet.
Barrin92 8y ago
>You obviously can't save the jobs in one country and also create those same jobs in another country. Who would want to create the exact same jobs that fit the needs of a labour market in the poorest region of the world in the US? What's the point of having someone in the US who went through at least 12 years of education to manually select pixels on a screen? Getting those jobs to people in Nairobi is good for them because it lifts them out of dangerous and hazardous jobs, and it would be a horrible place to work at in a developed country.
- selimthegrim 8y ago
  New Orleans, a city with 50% functional illiteracy, would like a word with you.
  - Rescis 8y ago
    Do you have a source for that? While still in definite need of improvement, the highest number for illiteracy I can find is 40%, and that is for adults exclusively.
    - selimthegrim 8y ago
      47% in 2003 according to https://books.google.com/books?id=v1x2cbHvULAC&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35&dq=new+orleans+functional+illiteracy&source=bl&ots=7pum3F-P_l&sig=SHzPk9KqpqTVDIpdr49TvuhHnH8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0xZC1xbveAhUM5YMKHWzuDnAQ6AEwEHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=new%20orleans%20functional%20illiteracy&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=v1x2cbHvULAC&pg=PA35&lpg=P... The state of affairs may have improved in the interim

xvedejas 8y ago

There are enough non-zero-sum effects in economics that this isn't plainly apparent to me. It seems like quite a claim, really. For instance, I find it plausible that cheap labor from overseas may actually help subsidize the creation of an industry, which might grow enough to need more employees in the US for related work.

cloakandswagger 8y ago
It's actually a pretty reasonable and logical claim, supported by 20 years of globalism that gutted American employment.
Setepenre 8y ago
What is this ? Rational thoughts on the internet.

Barrin92 8y ago

>You obviously can't save the jobs in one country and also create those same jobs in another country. Who would want to create the exact same jobs that fit the needs of a labour market in the poorest region of the world in the US? What's the point of having someone in the US who went through at least 12 years of education to manually select pixels on a screen? Getting those jobs to people in Nairobi is good for them because it lifts them out of dangerous and hazardous jobs, and it would be a horrible place to work at in a developed country.

selimthegrim 8y ago
New Orleans, a city with 50% functional illiteracy, would like a word with you.
- Rescis 8y ago
  Do you have a source for that? While still in definite need of improvement, the highest number for illiteracy I can find is 40%, and that is for adults exclusively.
  - selimthegrim 8y ago
    47% in 2003 according to https://books.google.com/books?id=v1x2cbHvULAC&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35&dq=new+orleans+functional+illiteracy&source=bl&ots=7pum3F-P_l&sig=SHzPk9KqpqTVDIpdr49TvuhHnH8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0xZC1xbveAhUM5YMKHWzuDnAQ6AEwEHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=new%20orleans%20functional%20illiteracy&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=v1x2cbHvULAC&pg=PA35&lpg=P... The state of affairs may have improved in the interim