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Fair enough. Someplace with a similar climate: sunny and comfortable year-round.

by niels_olson 16y ago

sliverstorm 16y ago
You say this because it is easier to get out, or because you believe harsh weather shortens lives?
- niels_olson 16y ago
  It's easier to get out. I have no evidence that harsh weather shortens lives, although there was a study that used rainfall in northwest counties as a proxy increased sedentary inactivity, and showed a linear relationship between bad weather and increasing ADHD diagnoses.
  - dugmartin 16y ago
    Shoveling snow is a great workout.
    - niels_olson 16y ago
      If you read the article, the point is not about occasional work-outs. I shoveled plenty of snow as a kid in Omaha. Snow deep enough we could dig tunnels. It doesn't compare to 40 miles a day on a bike.
  - qohen 16y ago
    You think being in Southern California will help with "sedentary inactivity"? As the song says, nobody walks in LA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_UpLtGEWoY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_UpLtGEWoY Seriously, the streets are pretty much deserted in LA--most people are driving and those who aren't, are on a bus. The normal bits of exercise and fresh air that a person might get in an east coast city are not something most people experience in LA. Or in many parts of California. If you're not the sort who makes time for the gym or outdoor activity, you're not going to be in good shape (literally and figuratively). FWIW, btw, there's this NY Times blog post which suggests New Yorkers are healthier than the norm (though it suggests that the walking may not be so significant...but who knows--all that tramping up and down stairs for the subway, running for the bus and just walking around town might make a difference): http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/new-york-citys-superior-health/ http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/new-york-citys-... Then, of course, there are the mental/emotional aspects of living in places that are more socially-oriented (e.g. NYC) vs. those that are not (e.g. LA)... So, all in all, I'm not so sure that Southern California is necessarily such a panacea :-)
    - Jach 16y ago
      Your post reminded me of a quote from the movie Crash I thought I'd share. "It's the sense of touch. In any real city, you walk, you know? You brush past people, people bump into you. In L.A., nobody touches you. We're always behind this metal and glass. I think we miss that touch so much, that we crash into each other, just so we can feel something."
    - niels_olson 16y ago
      The mayor of LA recently got his elbow shattered while riding in LA. Maybe I should tighten the parameters to "San Diego"? I here SF is nice, but doesn't it get a bit nippy in the winter?
      - benmathes 16y ago
        If you're looking for "easy to get out", Silicon Valley stays much warmer than SF, as we have the Santa Cruz mountains to guard us from the Pacific fog.
  - pyre 16y ago
    > linear relationship between bad weather and increasing ADHD diagnoses bad weather != sedentary inactivity That linear relationship could just as easily be due to something like vitamin D deficiency, SAD, environmental factors of growing up in such an environment, etc.

Fair enough. Someplace with a similar climate: sunny and comfortable year-round.

sliverstorm 16y ago

You say this because it is easier to get out, or because you believe harsh weather shortens lives?

niels_olson 16y ago
It's easier to get out. I have no evidence that harsh weather shortens lives, although there was a study that used rainfall in northwest counties as a proxy increased sedentary inactivity, and showed a linear relationship between bad weather and increasing ADHD diagnoses.
- dugmartin 16y ago
  Shoveling snow is a great workout.
  - niels_olson 16y ago
    If you read the article, the point is not about occasional work-outs. I shoveled plenty of snow as a kid in Omaha. Snow deep enough we could dig tunnels. It doesn't compare to 40 miles a day on a bike.
- qohen 16y ago
  You think being in Southern California will help with "sedentary inactivity"? As the song says, nobody walks in LA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_UpLtGEWoY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_UpLtGEWoY Seriously, the streets are pretty much deserted in LA--most people are driving and those who aren't, are on a bus. The normal bits of exercise and fresh air that a person might get in an east coast city are not something most people experience in LA. Or in many parts of California. If you're not the sort who makes time for the gym or outdoor activity, you're not going to be in good shape (literally and figuratively). FWIW, btw, there's this NY Times blog post which suggests New Yorkers are healthier than the norm (though it suggests that the walking may not be so significant...but who knows--all that tramping up and down stairs for the subway, running for the bus and just walking around town might make a difference): http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/new-york-citys-superior-health/ http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/new-york-citys-... Then, of course, there are the mental/emotional aspects of living in places that are more socially-oriented (e.g. NYC) vs. those that are not (e.g. LA)... So, all in all, I'm not so sure that Southern California is necessarily such a panacea :-)
  - Jach 16y ago
    Your post reminded me of a quote from the movie Crash I thought I'd share. "It's the sense of touch. In any real city, you walk, you know? You brush past people, people bump into you. In L.A., nobody touches you. We're always behind this metal and glass. I think we miss that touch so much, that we crash into each other, just so we can feel something."
  - niels_olson 16y ago
    The mayor of LA recently got his elbow shattered while riding in LA. Maybe I should tighten the parameters to "San Diego"? I here SF is nice, but doesn't it get a bit nippy in the winter?
    - benmathes 16y ago
      If you're looking for "easy to get out", Silicon Valley stays much warmer than SF, as we have the Santa Cruz mountains to guard us from the Pacific fog.
- pyre 16y ago
  > linear relationship between bad weather and increasing ADHD diagnoses bad weather != sedentary inactivity That linear relationship could just as easily be due to something like vitamin D deficiency, SAD, environmental factors of growing up in such an environment, etc.