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I just upgraded to Fedora 29. Text scaling slider is gone, now you can only pick between 100% and 200% scaling. Cant understand what would drive this "simplific

by dman 8y ago

I just upgraded to Fedora 29. Text scaling slider is gone, now you can only pick between 100% and 200% scaling. Cant understand what would drive this "simplification"

wlesieutre 8y ago
It works on iOS where Apple picks which screen resolutions exist, so it should work fine on Linux too! More seriously, I dealt with this trying to run a Linux VM on a Surface Pro a couple of years ago. I don't remember which distro, but 100% and 200% were the only UI scale options. Surface Pro's native scale in Windows is 150%, and the solution to match that in Linux ended up being to scale it to 200% and then set up xrandr to scale it back down to 75% of that. Not exactly a clean way to handle it. I'm pretty sad to hear that's still the state of things.
- blub 8y ago
  Having multiple resolutions on a mobile device doesn't really make sense, but in iOS one can adjust the size of UI elements and text. There is a text size slider under display & brightness
  - wlesieutre 8y ago
    I mean in terms of native hardware resolution, everything started with 1x assets, and eventually changed to 2x. Though they did eventually do a fractional scaling thing with 3x scaled down, which still feels clunky to me but at least you don't have to configure it yourself in two different places one of which is a command line.
tomrod 8y ago
In my perspective? Arrogance by the devs that they know their users without knowing their users. Like, okay, make an easy mode the default. But allow for that complexity to exist without completely writing full extensions for basic functionality.
- michaelmrose 8y ago
  In addition to themes they also want to get rid of extensions.
Mikeb85 8y ago
In Gnome Tweak you can adjust the text scaling to any factor you want, to the decimal. You can also choose whether or not you want sub-pixel hinting and if you want anti-aliasing. I'm using Fedora 29 right now for the record.
- dman 8y ago
  I know of Gnome Tweak. I am talking about the "Displays" tool which I believe is the default.
  - Mikeb85 8y ago
    Yeah that's HiDPI scaling (for the whole screen) and I agree it's silly that the options are only 100% or 200%. In their defence, most screens are either 1080 or 4K, not a ton of resolutions in between for desktops or laptops.
    - TylerE 8y ago
      1440p is getting pretty popular on desktop.
sjellis 8y ago
Here's a post on the GNOME blog aggregator about the issues of themes and adjustable sizing of elements: https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2018/10/15/restyling-apps-at-scale/ https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2018/10/15/restyling-apps-a...
- dman 8y ago
  This is a self inflicted issue. Theming existed prior to CSS, and developers decided that CSS was the way to implement theming rather than support an explicit theming api. Now the argument is being made the CSS has too wide a surface area.

by dman 8y ago

I just upgraded to Fedora 29. Text scaling slider is gone, now you can only pick between 100% and 200% scaling. Cant understand what would drive this "simplification"

wlesieutre 8y ago

It works on iOS where Apple picks which screen resolutions exist, so it should work fine on Linux too! More seriously, I dealt with this trying to run a Linux VM on a Surface Pro a couple of years ago. I don't remember which distro, but 100% and 200% were the only UI scale options. Surface Pro's native scale in Windows is 150%, and the solution to match that in Linux ended up being to scale it to 200% and then set up xrandr to scale it back down to 75% of that. Not exactly a clean way to handle it. I'm pretty sad to hear that's still the state of things.

blub 8y ago
Having multiple resolutions on a mobile device doesn't really make sense, but in iOS one can adjust the size of UI elements and text. There is a text size slider under display & brightness
- wlesieutre 8y ago
  I mean in terms of native hardware resolution, everything started with 1x assets, and eventually changed to 2x. Though they did eventually do a fractional scaling thing with 3x scaled down, which still feels clunky to me but at least you don't have to configure it yourself in two different places one of which is a command line.

tomrod 8y ago

In my perspective? Arrogance by the devs that they know their users without knowing their users. Like, okay, make an easy mode the default. But allow for that complexity to exist without completely writing full extensions for basic functionality.

michaelmrose 8y ago
In addition to themes they also want to get rid of extensions.

Mikeb85 8y ago

In Gnome Tweak you can adjust the text scaling to any factor you want, to the decimal. You can also choose whether or not you want sub-pixel hinting and if you want anti-aliasing. I'm using Fedora 29 right now for the record.

dman 8y ago
I know of Gnome Tweak. I am talking about the "Displays" tool which I believe is the default.
- Mikeb85 8y ago
  Yeah that's HiDPI scaling (for the whole screen) and I agree it's silly that the options are only 100% or 200%. In their defence, most screens are either 1080 or 4K, not a ton of resolutions in between for desktops or laptops.
  - TylerE 8y ago
    1440p is getting pretty popular on desktop.

sjellis 8y ago

Here's a post on the GNOME blog aggregator about the issues of themes and adjustable sizing of elements: https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2018/10/15/restyling-apps-at-scale/ https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2018/10/15/restyling-apps-a...

dman 8y ago
This is a self inflicted issue. Theming existed prior to CSS, and developers decided that CSS was the way to implement theming rather than support an explicit theming api. Now the argument is being made the CSS has too wide a surface area.