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> I still haven’t seen anything that has the size, battery life, functionality, range, and audio quality as AirPods at any price point Walmart has wired earbud

by zeveb 8y ago

> I still haven’t seen anything that has the size, battery life, functionality, range, and audio quality as AirPods at any price point Walmart has wired earbuds for under $5, which are quite small (they fit in your ears), have perpetual battery life (because they have no battery!), the same functionality (they play sound, in your ears), great range and great audio quality. And you won't have to replace them in two years. Isn't that great?

stuartd 8y ago
Wired earplugs on a phone are a usability nightmare as soon as you stand up. No thanks.
- asdff 8y ago
  Huh? Are you 8 feet tall?
  - trafnar 8y ago
    Maybe using a laptop on a couch, or trying to move after standing up.
  - reshie 8y ago
    where as just standing up may be a bit exaggerated(though forgetting and it unplugging and possibly breakage from a forcible unplug) wired headphone are a nightmare they are always in the way and even if you line them through your clothes they have issues.
  - wwweston 8y ago
    Nightmare is overstating the case, but it is convenient not to have to manage a tether running from the phone to your head if you're doing anything active. It's also convenient not to have to manage bluetooth pairing, though I usually find that to be less of a problem with most headphones and more of a problem with various car audio systems and some speakers. So, Airpods solve those problems. IMO none of this justifies removing the headphone jack and therefore the option of spending only $5-$20 on your headphones, and the particular solution package airpods embody won't justify their price for me: I've never liked Apple's earbuds, more of an over-the-ear fan anyway, $20-$40 over the ear bluetooth headsets work fine for me, if I'm spending $100+ on headphones they're going to be focused on audio quality in a way Apple will never prioritize over industrial design aesthetics and ecosystem. But, Airpods still solve those problems, and people who love the particular package have a right to enjoy it.
  - village-idiot 8y ago
    I’m assuming you’ve never had your earbuds ripped out by a doorknob or random piece of furniture? Lucky you.
mediocrejoker 8y ago
I know you're being sarcastic but the range on my AirPods is greater than 30ft, down the hall and two rooms over.
askafriend 8y ago
I'm sorry but to anyone who's actually tried and lived with AirPods, there's no going back and there's no comparison to anything on the market at any price (even at a higher price). It's so drastically better than anything on the market, that I'll immediately buy a new pair if I lose my current ones. I wouldn't even think twice about the price. There is no other headphones on the market where I can play 1:1 basketball for hours, have the headphones never fall out, and I don't even notice I have them on the entire time. They're a part of me. I literally forget that I have them in my ears, and they easily switch between all of the devices in my life in a way no other headphones do. It's a signficant quality of life improvement for me.
- samfisher83 8y ago
  The airpods I used a couple times fell out when I was running.
  - askafriend 8y ago
    That's fair - I have a coworker whose ears are shaped weirdly and he cannot use AirPods at all (or even the previous wired EarPods, for that matter) It's a one-size-fits-all design and if it's a little off you're kinda out of luck. They fit me perfectly though which is one of the things that blew my mind initially. I didn't realize how many of previous fit issues were a result of having a cord that tugs when you make any movements.
    - marpstar 8y ago
      I don't know if Apple changed the shape for AirPods (they look very similar to the EarPods) but the AirPods stay in my ears so much better, it's night and day. I've been attributing it to the weight/tug of the cable.
- lh7777 8y ago
  I'd never understood the appeal of wireless headphones, and I guess I kind of do now that I have AirPods. Mine fit fine and stay in while running, but that's the only use I've found for them. Anywhere else and I'd much rather use my 15 year old Sennheiser earbuds because I have so many problems with the AirPods: * like pretty much all Apple earbuds, they don't seal to my ear so they're totally useless in loud places like airplanes (my #1 use case for headphones) * audio frequently drops out, especially when outside (and there's nothing for the bluetooth signal to reflect off of) * terrible mic quality for phone calls * unreliable pairing to my Surface Pro * one more thing for me to forget to charge Some of this is anecdata and maybe I just have lemon AirPods, but my experience has been very far from "there's no going back and there's no comparison". I'd sell them without reservation if I didn't feel weird in general about selling earbuds.
OkGoDoIt 8y ago
Before getting the AirPods I agreed with you, Bluetooth headphones were much more hassle than they were worth. But the AirPods do really eliminate all of the inconveniences I had with Bluetooth headphones. As for whether they are worth the cost difference over wired headphones, I suppose that’s a personal preference, but I love the freedom, and since I walk many miles every day listening to audiobooks not having a cord to get caught on things or needing to be routed through clothing is a benefit for me. Also when I’m walking with my girlfriend we can each wear one AirPod and listen to something together without needing to stand within a couple feet of each other and have the awkwardness of a physical tether via a wired headphone splitter. I realize your comment is more snarky than practical, but it might be worth getting one from an Apple store and then returning it within their return policy just to have a chance to play with it and see how far the technology has evolved, it’s much more improved than you might expect. And even if the airpods aren’t worth the investment for you personally, the fact that Apple is innovating here will hopefully push other manufacturers to innovate and maybe someday all Bluetooth headphones will be as painless, even ones that are significantly cheaper. As an analogy, I hated the iPhone in its first few years on the market. I was perfectly happy with my windows mobile smartphone with its QVGA resistive stylus-based touchscreen, enormous thick physical keyboard. I thought everyone that paid $800 for a sexy but functionally limited iPhone was a sheep. But Apple forced the smartphone industry to play by a different rulebook, and now I’m pretty excited with the levels of innovation that happens across all manufacturers.
- elboru 8y ago
  I used to think the same about laptops, until I got my Macbook Pro in 2013. I wanted an SSD laptop, there weren't too many options at the time (at least not in my city), one of the options was the Macbook Pro and the difference in price was minimal compared to other SSD Windows machines, so I gave Apple a chance and... it totally changed my perspective as a customer, now I look for other things than just "specs", now I like to think I see the whole picture, why do I want to get a "better" CPU or more RAM for the money if all the other aspects of the laptop will be compromised (cheap materials, the computer needing maintenance to prevent slowdown over time). I'm writing this on that same machine, and it still works like the first day and it hasn't shown any signs that it won't keep working like this in a while, this is the first time I can say that about a computer.
toasterlovin 8y ago
Come on. Wireless is a hugely important feature. The PC market is dominated by laptops. Because they are wireless. The phone market is dominated by cell phones. Because they are wireless.

by zeveb 8y ago

stuartd 8y ago

Wired earplugs on a phone are a usability nightmare as soon as you stand up. No thanks.

asdff 8y ago
Huh? Are you 8 feet tall?
- trafnar 8y ago
  Maybe using a laptop on a couch, or trying to move after standing up.
- reshie 8y ago
  where as just standing up may be a bit exaggerated(though forgetting and it unplugging and possibly breakage from a forcible unplug) wired headphone are a nightmare they are always in the way and even if you line them through your clothes they have issues.
- wwweston 8y ago
  Nightmare is overstating the case, but it is convenient not to have to manage a tether running from the phone to your head if you're doing anything active. It's also convenient not to have to manage bluetooth pairing, though I usually find that to be less of a problem with most headphones and more of a problem with various car audio systems and some speakers. So, Airpods solve those problems. IMO none of this justifies removing the headphone jack and therefore the option of spending only $5-$20 on your headphones, and the particular solution package airpods embody won't justify their price for me: I've never liked Apple's earbuds, more of an over-the-ear fan anyway, $20-$40 over the ear bluetooth headsets work fine for me, if I'm spending $100+ on headphones they're going to be focused on audio quality in a way Apple will never prioritize over industrial design aesthetics and ecosystem. But, Airpods still solve those problems, and people who love the particular package have a right to enjoy it.
- village-idiot 8y ago
  I’m assuming you’ve never had your earbuds ripped out by a doorknob or random piece of furniture? Lucky you.

mediocrejoker 8y ago

I know you're being sarcastic but the range on my AirPods is greater than 30ft, down the hall and two rooms over.

askafriend 8y ago

I'm sorry but to anyone who's actually tried and lived with AirPods, there's no going back and there's no comparison to anything on the market at any price (even at a higher price). It's so drastically better than anything on the market, that I'll immediately buy a new pair if I lose my current ones. I wouldn't even think twice about the price. There is no other headphones on the market where I can play 1:1 basketball for hours, have the headphones never fall out, and I don't even notice I have them on the entire time. They're a part of me. I literally forget that I have them in my ears, and they easily switch between all of the devices in my life in a way no other headphones do. It's a signficant quality of life improvement for me.

samfisher83 8y ago
The airpods I used a couple times fell out when I was running.
- askafriend 8y ago
  That's fair - I have a coworker whose ears are shaped weirdly and he cannot use AirPods at all (or even the previous wired EarPods, for that matter) It's a one-size-fits-all design and if it's a little off you're kinda out of luck. They fit me perfectly though which is one of the things that blew my mind initially. I didn't realize how many of previous fit issues were a result of having a cord that tugs when you make any movements.
  - marpstar 8y ago
    I don't know if Apple changed the shape for AirPods (they look very similar to the EarPods) but the AirPods stay in my ears so much better, it's night and day. I've been attributing it to the weight/tug of the cable.
lh7777 8y ago
I'd never understood the appeal of wireless headphones, and I guess I kind of do now that I have AirPods. Mine fit fine and stay in while running, but that's the only use I've found for them. Anywhere else and I'd much rather use my 15 year old Sennheiser earbuds because I have so many problems with the AirPods: * like pretty much all Apple earbuds, they don't seal to my ear so they're totally useless in loud places like airplanes (my #1 use case for headphones) * audio frequently drops out, especially when outside (and there's nothing for the bluetooth signal to reflect off of) * terrible mic quality for phone calls * unreliable pairing to my Surface Pro * one more thing for me to forget to charge Some of this is anecdata and maybe I just have lemon AirPods, but my experience has been very far from "there's no going back and there's no comparison". I'd sell them without reservation if I didn't feel weird in general about selling earbuds.

OkGoDoIt 8y ago

Before getting the AirPods I agreed with you, Bluetooth headphones were much more hassle than they were worth. But the AirPods do really eliminate all of the inconveniences I had with Bluetooth headphones. As for whether they are worth the cost difference over wired headphones, I suppose that’s a personal preference, but I love the freedom, and since I walk many miles every day listening to audiobooks not having a cord to get caught on things or needing to be routed through clothing is a benefit for me. Also when I’m walking with my girlfriend we can each wear one AirPod and listen to something together without needing to stand within a couple feet of each other and have the awkwardness of a physical tether via a wired headphone splitter. I realize your comment is more snarky than practical, but it might be worth getting one from an Apple store and then returning it within their return policy just to have a chance to play with it and see how far the technology has evolved, it’s much more improved than you might expect. And even if the airpods aren’t worth the investment for you personally, the fact that Apple is innovating here will hopefully push other manufacturers to innovate and maybe someday all Bluetooth headphones will be as painless, even ones that are significantly cheaper. As an analogy, I hated the iPhone in its first few years on the market. I was perfectly happy with my windows mobile smartphone with its QVGA resistive stylus-based touchscreen, enormous thick physical keyboard. I thought everyone that paid $800 for a sexy but functionally limited iPhone was a sheep. But Apple forced the smartphone industry to play by a different rulebook, and now I’m pretty excited with the levels of innovation that happens across all manufacturers.

elboru 8y ago
I used to think the same about laptops, until I got my Macbook Pro in 2013. I wanted an SSD laptop, there weren't too many options at the time (at least not in my city), one of the options was the Macbook Pro and the difference in price was minimal compared to other SSD Windows machines, so I gave Apple a chance and... it totally changed my perspective as a customer, now I look for other things than just "specs", now I like to think I see the whole picture, why do I want to get a "better" CPU or more RAM for the money if all the other aspects of the laptop will be compromised (cheap materials, the computer needing maintenance to prevent slowdown over time). I'm writing this on that same machine, and it still works like the first day and it hasn't shown any signs that it won't keep working like this in a while, this is the first time I can say that about a computer.

toasterlovin 8y ago

Come on. Wireless is a hugely important feature. The PC market is dominated by laptops. Because they are wireless. The phone market is dominated by cell phones. Because they are wireless.