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There are just so many poor bastards that spent lots of money on useless degrees. It is kind of a problem in the marriage market, because more women go to coll

There are just so many poor bastards that spent lots of money on useless degrees. It is kind of a problem in the marriage market, because more women go to college and end up with massive college debt, which makes them financially unattractive.

thrower123 8y ago
I am curious why this is a hugely unpopular fact.
- jimktrains2 8y ago
  It's more the not-even-veiled misogyny than the statement about the relative worth of degrees that caused my down vote. Also, most/all of this generation are told that it doesn't matter what your degree is in, just that you get a degree. That idea combined with some generic distain for trades is what drives kids to college regardless of cost. Men are also taking out loans. We need to respect trades and respect that not everyone wants or needs to spend 4 more years in school. We also need to stop being misogynistic, but that should go without saying.
  - LyndsySimon 8y ago
    Is it necessarily misogynistic, though? At the population level, women’s degrees are worth less than men’s because women more often exit the job market to raise children. If someone wants to do that - and I 100% stand behind that being a valid and important decision, for either sex - then college debt would be a very poor financial decision. I’m not convinced it’s a systemic problem, but it would be interesting to see default rates broken down by gender.
    - jimktrains2 8y ago
      The comment was, yes. First, it isn't a problem that is specific to women in any way, shape, or form. Second, it paints women as only existing to find a mate, and this is hampering that. Why should women be singled out in this? They should be able to explore their intellectual side as well.
- LyndsySimon 8y ago
  I think people are inferring that you believe women’s hould stay home and not use their degree to earn. Whatever your personal beliefs, a much larger proportion of women do exit the job market at or before the height of their earning potential to raise children. It’s not a moral judgement to say that this is could pose a problem.
  - thrower123 8y ago
    The bigger problem that I see is that women are more likely to major in financially unrewarding fields.
    - LyndsySimon 8y ago
      Can you support that?
      - thrower123 8y ago
        I do not have the nationwide stats, but I've been around the block.

thrower123 8y ago

I am curious why this is a hugely unpopular fact.

jimktrains2 8y ago
It's more the not-even-veiled misogyny than the statement about the relative worth of degrees that caused my down vote. Also, most/all of this generation are told that it doesn't matter what your degree is in, just that you get a degree. That idea combined with some generic distain for trades is what drives kids to college regardless of cost. Men are also taking out loans. We need to respect trades and respect that not everyone wants or needs to spend 4 more years in school. We also need to stop being misogynistic, but that should go without saying.
- LyndsySimon 8y ago
  Is it necessarily misogynistic, though? At the population level, women’s degrees are worth less than men’s because women more often exit the job market to raise children. If someone wants to do that - and I 100% stand behind that being a valid and important decision, for either sex - then college debt would be a very poor financial decision. I’m not convinced it’s a systemic problem, but it would be interesting to see default rates broken down by gender.
  - jimktrains2 8y ago
    The comment was, yes. First, it isn't a problem that is specific to women in any way, shape, or form. Second, it paints women as only existing to find a mate, and this is hampering that. Why should women be singled out in this? They should be able to explore their intellectual side as well.
LyndsySimon 8y ago
I think people are inferring that you believe women’s hould stay home and not use their degree to earn. Whatever your personal beliefs, a much larger proportion of women do exit the job market at or before the height of their earning potential to raise children. It’s not a moral judgement to say that this is could pose a problem.
- thrower123 8y ago
  The bigger problem that I see is that women are more likely to major in financially unrewarding fields.
  - LyndsySimon 8y ago
    Can you support that?
    - thrower123 8y ago
      I do not have the nationwide stats, but I've been around the block.