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All the nasty/embarrassing stories for UK will be resurfaced to weight in Brexit negotiations. Russia already warned the international community that UK didn't
by antpls 8y ago
All the nasty/embarrassing stories for UK will be resurfaced to weight in Brexit negotiations. Russia already warned the international community that UK didn't cooperate well about all the accusations of nerve agents (not that Russia cooperates massively either).
Personal opinion : UK gov thinks they are the only people on Earth, they think they can ignore their neighbors, they overestimate themselves and I hope a bad Brexit will give them a good lesson. If UK were a passive country and actually self-sufficient, we wouldn't care much. But they actively try to influence international relations, and they want to do it without EU, which is obviously egoist and short-sighted, since they don't get to chose their geographical neighbors.
- fhood 8y agoHahaha hilarious. That silly UK government. You would never see any other English speaking countries act like that, no siree.
- Karunamon 8y agoThis is whataboutism and doesn't add much to the conversation.
- fhood 8y agoWould you have preferred I phrased it "That attitude is not unique to the UK, given that the US and Australia, among others, have been known to act much the same way"? Same information either way.
- Karunamon 8y agoI’d prefer we don’t attempt to deflect valid criticism with snarky or otherwise variations “other people do it too”...
- NeedMoreTea 8y agoI think that applies to almost all governments. :p The UK is just blessed with possibly our most incompetent and arrogant government(s) in a century. A bad Brexit will hurt the people not the tax haven hedge fund running politicians who are no doubt heavily short on Sterling.
- mendelsd 8y agoBrexit aside, some well-informed people are advocating a large Sterling devaluation in order to boost competitiveness [1]: "We should directly address our lack of competitiveness by the most obvious and effective means available: by bringing about a substantial devaluation of the currency." [1] https://fabians.org.uk/publication/productive-purpose/ https://fabians.org.uk/publication/productive-purpose/
- Voloskaya 8y ago> Russia already warned the international community that UK didn't cooperate well about all the accusations of nerve agents Why would UK cooperate at all with the principal suspect in this case? How can this be controversial or inform us in any way on how UK cooperate with allied nations?
- razster 8y agoRemember, this is an open forum for all. Government agents are on here as well. Be mindful that you may just be replying to one of them.
- echevil 8y agoWell, if the competing theory (that UK is behind the nerve agents) is true, they also have good reasons not to cooperate.
- lostlogin 8y agoIs it really a competing theory? This seems like discussing the competing theory for who shot down MH17 over Ukraine. The Russian method of dealing the dissenting voices has been pretty consistent for over 100 years now. That doesn’t mean it’s always Russia, but every part of the story fits.
- jen20 8y agoThe only people to whom that is a "competing theory" have an exceptionally high probability of being viewers of whatever the local equivalent to Fox News is.
- kevin_thibedeau 8y agoObviously it was Democrats who secretly deployed Novichok as part of a false flag operation.
- echevil 8y agoYou forgot there are people outside US? Outside its media bubble
- Spearchucker 8y agoHaving lived in the UK for 18 years and recently left because of Brexit I seriously hope that crazy government pulls it together and negotiates a deal with the EU. A hard Brexit will help no one. Not the UK, not the EU, not international trade partners of the UK, and not any of the tourists from anywhere. And of all of these the UK will for obvious reasons be hardest hit. They have an opportunity to retain relevance (a deal, or pull out of Brexit all together), but they're teetering on the brink of total irellevance (nuclear abilitiy notwithstanding).
- antpls 8y agoI hope people will eventually figure out that a Brexit (deal or no deal) will help no one.
- hardlianotion 8y agothere are two schools of though on how and whether it will help, and I am not in your school.
- richmarr 8y ago"Schools of thought" seems generous. Most of the opinion on the subject (aside from reasonable criticism of cack-handed implementation) is shallow and visceral. That said, most of the evidence that at least has the dressing of empiricism favours Remain. There are two things that reliably help an economy, immigration and lower barriers to trade; Brexit damages them both, in favour of up-sides based largely on ideas relating to jam, so economists have fairly uniformly come down against it.
- hardlianotion 8y agoAgain, there are shades of opinion on this. There are many leavers who are all for lowered barriers to trade and recognise the stranglehold the European Economic Area has on standards. I'd be quite happy in the EEA, for instance. Your argument is a little reductive and black/white.
- remind_me_again 8y agoOnly? :) Barack Obama 'approved tapping Angela Merkel's phone 3 years ago' https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10407282/Barack-Obama-approved-tapping-Angela-Merkels-phone-3-years-ago.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/10...