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Derek Banas produces high quality educational videos[1] and he is not able to meet a modest goal of $500 per month on Patreon[2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/c

Derek Banas produces high quality educational videos[1] and he is not able to meet a modest goal of $500 per month on Patreon[2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwRXb5dUK4cvsHbx-rGzSgw https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwRXb5dUK4cvsHbx-rGzSgw [2] https://www.patreon.com/derekbanas https://www.patreon.com/derekbanas This is just one data point but seems like when people have an option of not to pay, they won't pay.

dangoor 8y ago
Meanwhile, CGP Grey gets $19k+ every time he posts a video (though that's become pretty rare!) https://www.patreon.com/cgpgrey https://www.patreon.com/cgpgrey (Edit: I should note that I'm sure that Patreon has the same sort of long tail that everything else does... unless one is doing something unique and notable and gets discovered, Patreon is likely to produce little revenue, just like other revenue sources)
- dharmab 8y ago
  Grey also has other revenue streams- Ad revenue from YouTube, YouTube Red, podcast sponsorships, a merch store and some sort of office job related to media consulting. He's not all-in on Patreon.
  - gallerdude 8y ago
    Source on the media consulting?
    - dharmab 8y ago
      https://standard.tv/pages/about https://standard.tv/pages/about
- drieddust 8y ago
  Hmm, perhaps people are more interested in paying for Entertainment.
jowsie 8y ago
Whereas AvE has been so successful on Patreon that he just bought a 5 axis CNC Mill[1]. He does let you watch the videos a week early if you're a Patron though. Another YouTuber in the same kind of section, This Old Tony, announced he'd start a Patreon a week or so ago, and is already over 1000 Patrons[2]. He is offering no benefit other than supporting the videos he was already making. These are just the 2 more recent ones that come to mind, but there are a lot of YouTubers making a living from Patreon without sacrificing what the 'non-paying' viewers get. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4c4BqhhJW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4c4BqhhJW4 [2] https://www.patreon.com/thisoldtony https://www.patreon.com/thisoldtony
- walterbell 8y ago
  How do people manage access control for videos? Self-hosting for patrons then public on youtube?
  - otras 8y ago
    In AvE's case, it's an unlisted YouTube video that is embedded and linked to from his Patreon page, then a publicly listed YouTube video for the regular release.
  - VonGallifrey 8y ago
    I am supporting several interesting YouTubers on Patreon that offer early access and they just post the link to the unlisted YouTube Video to their Patreon Feed. Technically there is no access control other then that YouTube links are not easily guessable. It is probably not a huge concern for these YouTubers if there are a few people who see the video early when they are not supposed to.
    - jowsie 8y ago
      It's worth noting this isn't the best method of doing it. Some people like to make personal YouTube playlists, and they like to include, or sometimes specifically add Patreon reward unlisted videos to their playlists. They then forget to list their playlist as private, meaning it's discoverable via a youtube search.

dangoor 8y ago

Meanwhile, CGP Grey gets $19k+ every time he posts a video (though that's become pretty rare!) https://www.patreon.com/cgpgrey https://www.patreon.com/cgpgrey (Edit: I should note that I'm sure that Patreon has the same sort of long tail that everything else does... unless one is doing something unique and notable and gets discovered, Patreon is likely to produce little revenue, just like other revenue sources)

dharmab 8y ago
Grey also has other revenue streams- Ad revenue from YouTube, YouTube Red, podcast sponsorships, a merch store and some sort of office job related to media consulting. He's not all-in on Patreon.
- gallerdude 8y ago
  Source on the media consulting?
  - dharmab 8y ago
    https://standard.tv/pages/about https://standard.tv/pages/about
drieddust 8y ago
Hmm, perhaps people are more interested in paying for Entertainment.

jowsie 8y ago

Whereas AvE has been so successful on Patreon that he just bought a 5 axis CNC Mill[1]. He does let you watch the videos a week early if you're a Patron though. Another YouTuber in the same kind of section, This Old Tony, announced he'd start a Patreon a week or so ago, and is already over 1000 Patrons[2]. He is offering no benefit other than supporting the videos he was already making. These are just the 2 more recent ones that come to mind, but there are a lot of YouTubers making a living from Patreon without sacrificing what the 'non-paying' viewers get. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4c4BqhhJW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4c4BqhhJW4 [2] https://www.patreon.com/thisoldtony https://www.patreon.com/thisoldtony

walterbell 8y ago
How do people manage access control for videos? Self-hosting for patrons then public on youtube?
- otras 8y ago
  In AvE's case, it's an unlisted YouTube video that is embedded and linked to from his Patreon page, then a publicly listed YouTube video for the regular release.
- VonGallifrey 8y ago
  I am supporting several interesting YouTubers on Patreon that offer early access and they just post the link to the unlisted YouTube Video to their Patreon Feed. Technically there is no access control other then that YouTube links are not easily guessable. It is probably not a huge concern for these YouTubers if there are a few people who see the video early when they are not supposed to.
  - jowsie 8y ago
    It's worth noting this isn't the best method of doing it. Some people like to make personal YouTube playlists, and they like to include, or sometimes specifically add Patreon reward unlisted videos to their playlists. They then forget to list their playlist as private, meaning it's discoverable via a youtube search.