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This has nothing to do with Deutsche Physik but it fits the narrative of some people to associate China with Nazi Germany or any other dystopian regime.

jerf 8y ago
The connection between China and "dystopian regimes" seems pretty clear to me. The biggest difference is that the Nazis and the Soviets could only dream of the tools the Chinese already have and will have, though the Soviets definitely proved that even without tech you could get yourself a pretty solidly oppressive police state going. Only time can tell if the result will be a state that explodes even more quickly due to the suppressed stresses coming out all at once at some point, or a stable totalitarian state will emerge.
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- hatergonnahate 8y ago
  China will explode, there will be a big riot and it'll split into multiple "democratic"(and in fact, oligarchy）states which are not united at all, after millions died. At that time, US media just won't care about Chinese people at all and celebrate "democracy wins again!". Rest assured, China's history told us even that were to happen, within 50 years some dictator-like leader(Hint: last guy is Mao) will rise abruptly leading her 500+ million rural population in poverty and unit the land again.
Lio 8y ago
China lacks democracy, routinely "disapears" its own promenant people, censors the internet and has the death penatly for the purpose of organ harvesting for the rich[1]. In what way is China not already run by a dystopian regime? [1] https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/the-reality-of-human-organ-harvesting-in-china/news-story/14d3aa5751c39d6639a1cc5b39f223b7 https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/the...
- qubax 8y ago
  If you propagandize one side like that, of course it looks dystopian. You could do the same exact thing for pretty much any state, country or bloc. > In what way is China not already run by a dystopian regime? How about the fact that they lifted 800 million people? Or the fact that they increased literacy rates from 20% before they came in power to nearly 100% today? Using your logic, everything is always dystopian because you only choose to see the negative. Every country has positives and negatives. Every single one.
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  - Lio 8y ago
    It's not properganda if it's true, it's just news. I'm sorry but the ends do not justify the means. Whilst all countries have positives and negatives any country where you can't publically ridicule the ruling elite is dystopian. Every single one.
    - ElBarto 8y ago
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- ElBarto 8y ago
  They also boil little children during secret ceremonies. That's the sort of claims you've fallen for, so why not?

jerf 8y ago

The connection between China and "dystopian regimes" seems pretty clear to me. The biggest difference is that the Nazis and the Soviets could only dream of the tools the Chinese already have and will have, though the Soviets definitely proved that even without tech you could get yourself a pretty solidly oppressive police state going. Only time can tell if the result will be a state that explodes even more quickly due to the suppressed stresses coming out all at once at some point, or a stable totalitarian state will emerge.

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hatergonnahate 8y ago
China will explode, there will be a big riot and it'll split into multiple "democratic"(and in fact, oligarchy）states which are not united at all, after millions died. At that time, US media just won't care about Chinese people at all and celebrate "democracy wins again!". Rest assured, China's history told us even that were to happen, within 50 years some dictator-like leader(Hint: last guy is Mao) will rise abruptly leading her 500+ million rural population in poverty and unit the land again.

Lio 8y ago

China lacks democracy, routinely "disapears" its own promenant people, censors the internet and has the death penatly for the purpose of organ harvesting for the rich[1]. In what way is China not already run by a dystopian regime? [1] https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/the-reality-of-human-organ-harvesting-in-china/news-story/14d3aa5751c39d6639a1cc5b39f223b7 https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/the...

qubax 8y ago
If you propagandize one side like that, of course it looks dystopian. You could do the same exact thing for pretty much any state, country or bloc. > In what way is China not already run by a dystopian regime? How about the fact that they lifted 800 million people? Or the fact that they increased literacy rates from 20% before they came in power to nearly 100% today? Using your logic, everything is always dystopian because you only choose to see the negative. Every country has positives and negatives. Every single one.
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- Lio 8y ago
  It's not properganda if it's true, it's just news. I'm sorry but the ends do not justify the means. Whilst all countries have positives and negatives any country where you can't publically ridicule the ruling elite is dystopian. Every single one.
  - ElBarto 8y ago
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ElBarto 8y ago
They also boil little children during secret ceremonies. That's the sort of claims you've fallen for, so why not?