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This has always happened. Finally the government has the guts to take on their cheating after decades of theft.
by ycombonator 8y ago
This has always happened. Finally the government has the guts to take on their cheating after decades of theft.
- godzillabrennus 8y agoNow China is emerging as a real threat to the government’s world order.
- RobertRoberts 8y agoI have a friend who made software for satellites in the 90s (ie, satellites that killed other satellites) and said that China was the US's biggest threat. This has been known for a very long time. Even when I was a kid my mother said they were manipulating their currency (I was about 7 when she told me this decades ago). If people didn't know, their heads were in the sand. The same way people don't recognize that there are world religions that want to do away with all secular governments and install their religious governments. Look up the first war the US was engaged in 200 years ago, you mayb be surprised to know it's the same group we now call "terrorists" today.
- wdn 8y agoChina was never any threat to any country in the history of China. The culture is simply too corrupted. US biggest threat is the national debt and the unfounded and underfunded liabilities. The national debt is really not a problem as long as the USD still the world reserved currency. How the reserved status may change because of China and that’s the real threat.
- WillPostForFood 8y agoChina was never any threat to any country in the history of China Tibet? Taiwan? Vietnam? South Korea (by proxy)?
- chibg10 8y agoI'm sure "China" went from China Proper to enveloping Manchuria, southern China, and modern-day Xinjiang through purely peaceful measures as well... [I should note that I find these types of discussions useless in the first place. No problem among living humans was ever solved by arguing over whose ancestors were less barbaric...]
- throwaway855 8y agoTo be fair, Manchuria and Xinjiang were conquered during the Qing dynasty, who were Manchu people, not Han. They were later Sinicized after several generations.
- phyller 8y agoIn my opinion, the little nugget of truth here is that the focus of the Chinese government has almost always been inward, and not outward, and definitely has been for the last several generations. Their greatest threat is not the US or anyone else, it is and always has been (and will be) their own people. If you think about it like this it explains everything that the government has been doing for decades. They limit the population growth so that they can feed everyone and keep discontent down. They focus on the economy to keep discontent down. They build regional and world status to create pride in a greater, unified China. Even their tv shows and movies glorify themes which show a united China as one, and always the government are the good, humble servants. Military power, technological independence, even hostility towards other countries is mostly to build patriotism and unity among their own people. And of course they restrict the internet, control the media, and limit what people can see and say. Even when China was being successfully invaded by the Japanese, the existing government was more concerned with the Communist revolution. When they finally got desperate and banded together with the Communists to fight the Japanese, they lost ... to the Chinese Communists who took the opportunity to overthrow them. So in that sense, it is helpful to understand the Chinese government and the things they are likely to do, and how to interpret them.
- cbnotfromthere 8y ago"even hostility towards other countries is mostly to build patriotism and unity among their own people." LOL! Tell this to Vietnam, Philippines, Mongolia, and most of their frightened neighbors.
- ionised 8y agoThe US biggest threat is its own ruling class.
- godelmachine 8y agoWhich 200 year ago war you are talking about?
- Herodotus38 8y agoFirst Barbary War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
- thro_a_way 8y agoWell this practice was really following a template instituted by Muhammad who also robbed local merchants from Mecca unless they accept Islam.
- godelmachine 8y ago>> Barbary Wars, in which the United States and Sweden fought against the four North African states known collectively as the "Barbary States". Three of these were nominal provinces of the Ottoman Empire, but in practice autonomous: Tripoli, Algiers, and Tunis. The fourth was the independent Sultanate of Morocco. Thanks for the link. But may I ask which of the above 4 countries are you calling “terrorists”?
- Herodotus38 8y agoI'm not the original poster, but I don't think he or she was equating the Barbary coast countries as being terrorists. Rather that people would be surprised to find out that the USA has been at war off and on with Islamic Caliphates since just after the Revolutionary war. I think their point is broader than just being generic attack against Islam though, for example there are plenty of Hindu nationalists and Christian Nationalists (Google State Representative Matt Shea in the Washington State) that would love to establish a Hindu or Christian nation by force.
- godelmachine 8y agoSaying a Hindu nationalist who would like to enforce a Hindu nation is a bit rich, methinks. Would you kindly provide an example like you provided for a Christian nationalist?
- louprado 8y agoYes when China does it, we call it "currency manipulation". But when the U.S. does it, we call it "quantitative easing".
- misterbwong 8y agoThis is a misleading simplification. Eating apples will make me less hungry and so will eating rocks. That means eating rocks is the same thing as eating apples.
- rohit2412 8y ago> The same way people don't recognize that there are world religions that want to do away with all secular governments and install their religious governments. Kudos. It is difficult to criticize an ideology without being blamed to be hateful of its adherents
- qubax 8y agoHopefully this is the first step in tackling IP theft issue. China is a big problem, but so is britain, israel, korea, japan, etc. Sometimes, these countries take our IP/tech and sell it to china.