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by ivank 8y ago

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2012/05/when-bad-science-kills-or-how-to-spread-aids/&strip=1&vwsrc=0 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:blog.pr... Bill Gates doesn't seem to care that that science behind the project is terrible. It must have been pointed out to him, yet he was still promoting the project in 2015: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovf8GYfNbw&t=40s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovf8GYfNbw&t=40s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFtSt862sKY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFtSt862sKY - how much informed consent do you think was involved here? A lawsuit against PSI Zimbabwe, also supported[1] by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation http://nehandaradio.com/2018/09/02/400-000-circumcision-lawsuit-family-sues-over-unsanctioned-sons-foreskin-removal/ http://nehandaradio.com/2018/09/02/400-000-circumcision-laws... 15,269,720 "voluntary medical male circumcisions" based on this bogus science http://www.aidsmap.com/PEPFAR-funded-15-million-medical-male-circumcisions-between-2007-and-2017/page/3343169/ http://www.aidsmap.com/PEPFAR-funded-15-million-medical-male... [1] https://www.psi.org/2016/11/using-market-research-for-long-term-sustainability-of-vmmc-in-zimbabwe-and-zambia/ https://www.psi.org/2016/11/using-market-research-for-long-t...

isomorph 8y ago
Didn't realise how into it Bill Gates was - thanks for pointing that out. Hearing that boy's sadness in that video is very upsetting.
valtism 8y ago
I've heard from people inside WHO that Gates' mentality is that he wants solutions NOW and doesn't concern himself much with potential issues around the solutions. I've heard that they would rather not have his money than be forced to put out vaccines that have questionable manufacturing practices.
- xkcd-sucks 8y ago
  Well yeah he probably wants to see results before he dies
  - m0llusk 8y ago
    Do gooders tend to cause harm Thu do not intend. That Gates has good intentions means little if he makes things worse by pushing non solutions that happen to harmonize with his dick chopping ideology.
- nostromo 8y ago
  A million people die from HIV every year -- a sense of urgency is warranted.
aurizon 8y ago
The true science in this is:- Circumcision removes the skin that covers the tip as well as the glands that lubricate these surfaces and it dries out. The HIV virus can not penetrate intact dry skin, but it can penetrate the moist and thinner skin of intact males. This reduces infection, but not all. The opening at the top where you pee is still moist and the virus can enter there. It is well know the Jewish men have far fewer infections of assorted viruses, like HPV that causes cancer in women and that is why cervical cancer is rare in Jewish women.

by ivank 8y ago

isomorph 8y ago

Didn't realise how into it Bill Gates was - thanks for pointing that out. Hearing that boy's sadness in that video is very upsetting.

valtism 8y ago

I've heard from people inside WHO that Gates' mentality is that he wants solutions NOW and doesn't concern himself much with potential issues around the solutions. I've heard that they would rather not have his money than be forced to put out vaccines that have questionable manufacturing practices.

xkcd-sucks 8y ago
Well yeah he probably wants to see results before he dies
- m0llusk 8y ago
  Do gooders tend to cause harm Thu do not intend. That Gates has good intentions means little if he makes things worse by pushing non solutions that happen to harmonize with his dick chopping ideology.
nostromo 8y ago
A million people die from HIV every year -- a sense of urgency is warranted.

aurizon 8y ago

The true science in this is:- Circumcision removes the skin that covers the tip as well as the glands that lubricate these surfaces and it dries out. The HIV virus can not penetrate intact dry skin, but it can penetrate the moist and thinner skin of intact males. This reduces infection, but not all. The opening at the top where you pee is still moist and the virus can enter there. It is well know the Jewish men have far fewer infections of assorted viruses, like HPV that causes cancer in women and that is why cervical cancer is rare in Jewish women.