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What Apple has realised is there is an entire class of people who simply don’t mind paying $70 a month or whatever it costs to have a new iPhone, even though th

What Apple has realised is there is an entire class of people who simply don’t mind paying $70 a month or whatever it costs to have a new iPhone, even though they’re not competitive in price, it doesn’t matter, and so Apple gets to make these huge profits.

anthonybsd 8y ago
>even though they’re not competitive in price Explain to me how having the fastest silicone in the business is not "competitive" in price? I mean if you are the top dog, you kinda get to set the stage, no?
- DerekL 8y ago
  You mean “silicon”, not “silicone”. (Or maybe you do mean “silicone”?)
  - anthonybsd 8y ago
    Right you are, silicon. Thank you. Not caulking material :)
- Synaesthesia 8y ago
  They do have the best silicone, and I was trying to explain why they get to set the price they do and get away with it. It’s just that, for example in South Africa the new iPhone XS costs R22000-24000 which is $1500 - the Samsungs and especially the Huawei’s are much cheaper. You can get a P20 lite for like R5000 which is an outstanding phone. But again many South Africans can afford the iPhone.
  - anthonybsd 8y ago
    Well of course! Not everyone needs the best CPU. I recently got Huawei Mate for my mother in law for let's see 1/7th of what I paid for my IPhone XS Max. Some people do (I play a lot of 3D games and what not), but vast majority of the people do not. It's just that Huawei and Samsung have offerings that span the whole range of prices whereas Apple only covers ultra-premium segment. And if you venture into Apple prices are comparable to others (and command much better resale).
rconti 8y ago
What HN commenters have realised is there is an entire class of commenters who simply don't mind inventing figures or whatever it takes to create a straw man, even though they're not congruent with reality, it doesn't matter, and so the poster gets to declare victory.
docker_up 8y ago
I'm one of those people. I was getting iPhones every 2 years, but my phones were laying around wasted. I would rather "rent" my iphone and switch it out every year for essentially the same cost, and not have to deal with the phones laying around. Plus getting Apple Care every year makes sense now with the screens being so expensive to fix.
Steko 8y ago
> not competitive in price Yeah those rubes paying Apple's $793 ASP could gotten a Galaxy S9+ for only $840. Or a Pixel 3 starting at $799,a Pixel 3XL for $899, a Note 9 starting at $1000 or a Huawei P20 Pro for €899 instead.

anthonybsd 8y ago

>even though they’re not competitive in price Explain to me how having the fastest silicone in the business is not "competitive" in price? I mean if you are the top dog, you kinda get to set the stage, no?

DerekL 8y ago
You mean “silicon”, not “silicone”. (Or maybe you do mean “silicone”?)
- anthonybsd 8y ago
  Right you are, silicon. Thank you. Not caulking material :)
Synaesthesia 8y ago
They do have the best silicone, and I was trying to explain why they get to set the price they do and get away with it. It’s just that, for example in South Africa the new iPhone XS costs R22000-24000 which is $1500 - the Samsungs and especially the Huawei’s are much cheaper. You can get a P20 lite for like R5000 which is an outstanding phone. But again many South Africans can afford the iPhone.
- anthonybsd 8y ago
  Well of course! Not everyone needs the best CPU. I recently got Huawei Mate for my mother in law for let's see 1/7th of what I paid for my IPhone XS Max. Some people do (I play a lot of 3D games and what not), but vast majority of the people do not. It's just that Huawei and Samsung have offerings that span the whole range of prices whereas Apple only covers ultra-premium segment. And if you venture into Apple prices are comparable to others (and command much better resale).

rconti 8y ago

What HN commenters have realised is there is an entire class of commenters who simply don't mind inventing figures or whatever it takes to create a straw man, even though they're not congruent with reality, it doesn't matter, and so the poster gets to declare victory.

docker_up 8y ago

I'm one of those people. I was getting iPhones every 2 years, but my phones were laying around wasted. I would rather "rent" my iphone and switch it out every year for essentially the same cost, and not have to deal with the phones laying around. Plus getting Apple Care every year makes sense now with the screens being so expensive to fix.

Steko 8y ago

> not competitive in price Yeah those rubes paying Apple's $793 ASP could gotten a Galaxy S9+ for only $840. Or a Pixel 3 starting at $799,a Pixel 3XL for $899, a Note 9 starting at $1000 or a Huawei P20 Pro for €899 instead.