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From that link, it's unclear to me whether an Opinel would be illegal: it locks in place, but not with a button. Anyone know? > Lock knives are not classed as
by iguy 8y ago
From that link, it's unclear to me whether an Opinel would be illegal: it locks in place, but not with a button. Anyone know?
> Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:
* have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button
* can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener
- rtkwe 8y agoOdds are the actual laws don't make mention of button, most multi-tools with locking blades use non button locks, and the list is just an example.
- DanBC 8y agoThe law is the Criminal Justice Act 1988. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/33/contents https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/33/contents The knife stuff starts here: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/33/part/XI/crossheading/articles-with-blades-or-points-and-offensive-weapons https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/33/part/XI/crosshe... That talks about the blade folding and being under 3 inches (you don't need a good reason to carry it in public), or the blade folding and being over 3 inches or not folding. It doesn't mention the mechanism of locking. Knives that are illegal would be covered by section 141 - "offensive weapons". The Knives Act 1997 covers marketing of knives: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/21/contents https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/21/contents The schedule to the Criminal Justice Act lists what weapons are currently illegal: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1988/2019/schedule/paragraph/1/made https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1988/2019/schedule/parag... You'll see item 1 is a knuckleduster. If you're a child and you 3d print a knuckle duster a police officer is likely to tell you to stop fucking about and they'll confiscate and destroy the item. If you're a drug dealer with a history of violent offences they're likely to prosecute. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45275791 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45275791 This is a cultural difference in law enforcement, and it's something that derails conversations all the time on HN. Discretion in charging and prosecuting offences are seen as a good thing in the UK. But it's really important to remember this element of discretion when talking about how the written law is applied.
- justtopost 8y agoHere we call that selective enforcement, and find it encourages racism, sexism, and other abuses. There is not really an ideal situation sadly.
- iguy 8y agoThanks! These are more readable than I was imagining. And indeed, about discretion. So much of how things work is outside the written law, and of varying quality.