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There is no agile, no source control, no meetings If you stop there, it really doesn't sound so bad... Is there a way to present this as an opportunity for re

by matfil 8y ago

There is no agile, no source control, no meetings If you stop there, it really doesn't sound so bad... Is there a way to present this as an opportunity for reasonably experienced introverts to "own" something without too many interruptions? Or is there enough incidental stuff that it doesn't work like that in practice? (The "no source control" would probably bug me a bit, but presumably not much stopping someone running their own?)

hkai 8y ago
Good point, I guess this is what I will be writing on my own glassdoor review - there is literally zero office politics and there is every chance to use whatever tool you learn. I personally learned vue.js and secretly transitioned some internal tools to that.
- brokenmachine 8y ago
  I lol'ed at "secretly transitioned".
toast0 8y ago
There are a solid group of people who seek out jobs with no agile and no meetings. No source control is a bit out there, I don't want code reviews, but I do want to be able to rely on the source code for what's running on prod to be in the repo within some reasonable time (before it gets to prod is better, but after is ok too, as long as its consistent). Edit to add: > hiring developers because 1) Glassdoor reviews are bad 2) compensation is small 3) work is frustrating 4) you don't learn anything from colleagues Of these, only one is important -- compensation; pay more and people will be willing to put up with a frustrating work environment. Especially if "no meetings" means no meetings. (unlike where i currently work where "no meetings wednesdays" means everybody has room on their schedule on wednesdays, which means that's where the meetings are scheduled)
- matfil 8y ago
  Precisely.
danhorner 8y ago
This is an enlightened and contrarian POV and I'm glad for it.
pjc50 8y ago
No source control means either no collaboration, frequent merge crises, or hyper-micro-services architecture. Either way it means siloed work and frequent re-work. And no history to help you get on board. (Unless you're following the pre-git Linux flow of having patches merged by the dictator?) If there's no agile and no meetings .. are people just doing their own thing?

by matfil 8y ago

hkai 8y ago

Good point, I guess this is what I will be writing on my own glassdoor review - there is literally zero office politics and there is every chance to use whatever tool you learn. I personally learned vue.js and secretly transitioned some internal tools to that.

brokenmachine 8y ago
I lol'ed at "secretly transitioned".

toast0 8y ago

There are a solid group of people who seek out jobs with no agile and no meetings. No source control is a bit out there, I don't want code reviews, but I do want to be able to rely on the source code for what's running on prod to be in the repo within some reasonable time (before it gets to prod is better, but after is ok too, as long as its consistent). Edit to add: > hiring developers because 1) Glassdoor reviews are bad 2) compensation is small 3) work is frustrating 4) you don't learn anything from colleagues Of these, only one is important -- compensation; pay more and people will be willing to put up with a frustrating work environment. Especially if "no meetings" means no meetings. (unlike where i currently work where "no meetings wednesdays" means everybody has room on their schedule on wednesdays, which means that's where the meetings are scheduled)

matfil 8y ago
Precisely.

danhorner 8y ago

This is an enlightened and contrarian POV and I'm glad for it.

pjc50 8y ago

No source control means either no collaboration, frequent merge crises, or hyper-micro-services architecture. Either way it means siloed work and frequent re-work. And no history to help you get on board. (Unless you're following the pre-git Linux flow of having patches merged by the dictator?) If there's no agile and no meetings .. are people just doing their own thing?